The Declining Unpopularity of Socialism
Steve Benen observes that one problem with attacking Barack Obama as a “socialist” is that opposition to socialism isn’t as popular as it used to be:
Only 53% of American adults believe capitalism is better than socialism. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 20% disagree and say socialism is better. Twenty-seven percent (27%) are not sure which is better. Adults under 30 are essentially evenly divided: 37% prefer capitalism, 33% socialism, and 30% are undecided.
The generational change here is interesting. I think it reflects the fact that on a basic level “socialism” is good branding. The whole idea is that we should put society first rather than capital, or money. That sounds good! But in the United States we never had a Socialist Party so “socialism” was primarily associated with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics which was not at all good. But to people under 30, there’s less of that old resonance. And saying that Obama, who’s popular, is a “socialist” may simply tend to make people have warmer feelings toward the word “socialism.”
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April 9th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Yeah when your version of a socialist horror is Moscow circa 1973 you can scare people pretty easily, Stockholm or Paris not so much
April 9th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
But in the United States we never had a Socialist Party
Uh, right.
Still, the anglosphere has never really had the “Socialist Party” branding in elected office. It has had Labo(u)r parties, which emerged in the late 1800s to challenge the Liberal/Conservative political duopoly.
Assmussen’s question-based polling is weird, though: lots of leading questions, designed to generate headlines from press releases.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Ugh, fire my typist.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Look, let’s face it. There’s nothing inherently wrong about socialism. We need to stop buying into the rightwing’s memes and just admit what we are without shame. Obama is going to make socialism cool again, and I urge groups like CAP to “ride the wave” and stop using euphemisms like “progressive”.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
I wonder how much of this is that people, or at least people under 30, really don’t know what socialism is, and they only here it when they hear right wingers calling Western Europe and Democrats socialist, so since Western Europe and Democrats are rather popular among under-30-year-olds, socialism becomes more popular by association. Or do 33% of under-30s indeed favor public rather than private ownership of the means of production?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
I really don’t think that’s the result that Scott Rasmussen was after. Frankly, I’m pretty shocked myself. I would think, given the choice between capitalism and full-on socialism, 85% would say capitalism, 3-5% socialism, the rest undecided.
Rasmussen was looking for some good material that the rightwing media could flap around for a few days to fill the broadcast hour and scream, “See?! No one wants a stimulus package! No one wants socialism!”
Can we all just join hands and thank the GOP for this? For defining “capitalism” as the Bush-Cheney-Enron-predator state and “socialism” as the “cool new telegenic wonky president with the handsome family”? It’s going to make universal healthcare, college, unionization, raising the top marginal tax rate much, etc. much easier.
Social democracy in America…so close I can taste it.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I thought Obama was a fascist. So confusing!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Well, here in Milwaukee we had a long tradition of Socialism including the Nation’s first Socialist Mayor and Congressman. Our last Socialist Mayor, Daniel Hoan, was well regarded enough that they named a very nice bridge after him, a bridge I drive over every day.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
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April 9th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
That’s an amazing poll result –for someone born in 1953. But I can believe it.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
“By the way, if I was a real socialist, I suspect that I’d be wicked pissed about the massive dilution of term.”
That socialist should be happy: 1/3 of people under 30 (or more) are willing to at least listen to a full-on “socialist” agenda.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
The Socialist Party of America garnered 6.0% of the national vote in 1912, and over 3% of the national vote 3 other times. To put in perspective, the Greens have had a high of 2.7% in 2000, and the libertarian party has a high-water mark of 1.1% in a presidential election.
There’s really no good reason Socialism hasn’t had more play in the USA, except that the government and media and business interests all hate them.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
This also may be a case of some people who think that the government should more strongly regulate than it has been regulating for the past few years or that things like the provision of health care and energy should come to a greater extent through public institutions interpreting the question as “Should the U.S. become more socialist, or more capitalist?” In any event, polls like this seem useful mainly in tracking relative change (either longitudinally or cross-sectionally), rather than getting at absolute numbers, because no one really knows what people are thinking when they answer questions or whether they understand the questions at all. Kinda like how there are substantial numbers of people in the U.S., who, if polls are to be believed, think that the Earth was created within the past ten thousand years and that dinosaurs walked the Earth millions of years ago.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
This is just another reminder of how old I’m getting. Almost nobody my age would choose socialism. We remember the Soviet Union too clearly. But now there are a lot people who don’t. Hell, Matt can’t even remember the Shah of Iran because he wasn’t born yet.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
“This is just another reminder of how old I’m getting. Almost nobody my age would choose socialism. We remember the Soviet Union too clearly. But now there are a lot people who don’t. Hell, Matt can’t even remember the Shah of Iran because he wasn’t born yet.”
No offense, Fostert, but it’s people around your age that destroyed and disgraced capitalism by letting greedy monsters run wild with it.
Keynes+capitalism wasn’t good enough, apparently.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Following up Andy’s post. At certain times and in certain ways, socialists in the US have exerted a-beneficient-influence–punched above their weight if you will–greater than is suggested by those vote totals. Consider Eugene Debs, Norman Thomas, Michael Harrington, Dorothy Day.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
I wonder how many people would have picked “a mixture of capitalism and socialism” if that option were offered. Really, what a stupid poll. Capitalism and socialism don’t present us with a clear either/or choice. There is a whole spectrum of government policies between complete, unregulated laissez faire and state ownership of all property.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
No one could have anticipated that modern conservatives’ labeling of every vaguely publicly funded related public program in the universe as “socialist” that popular opposition to the term “socialism” would decline.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I’m sure the communists and Marxists are all mocking the poor socialists now:
“Not detested,
Couldn’t get arrested,
Going all Main-stream,
Just like the rest did.”
April 9th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Following up on Connor’s comment: ‘I really don’t think that’s the result that Scott Rasmussen was after.’
To be sure, but it’s all grist for the wingnut mill. This can be used as evidence of the diabolical influence exerted on our gullible youth by Acorn, George Soros and other bogeymen du jour.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
I think many, possibly most, people now assume socialism is inherently a matter of degree now. They probably think of communism when 100% state control of the means of production is brought up.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
actually its more like “i’m out of work, and my kids are hungry and i need some help. my local charities are swamped,
and they don’t have anything for my kids to eat. its getting cold, and the homeless centers are full……..little susie has an awful cough, maybe the emergency room will see her…..
grandma needs her medication…..wonder where i can get her perscription filled….i’ve always had a job, i’ve never asked for help before…i never looked in the face of a homeless man before….i’ve never had to live in a tent full time….camping out used to be fun………i don’t know how to be poor………….that socialism thing…a little government help doesn’t sound too bad………”
April 9th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Essentially, the word “socialist” is used by Republicans to describe anything that differs from deregulation and lower taxes. In this way, it becomes a divisive word, coming down on the “against us” side of the always black and white “with us or against us” dichotomy that they use to evaluate everything.
In fact, when they refer to “socialist” European countries, they are ignoring that those countries are actually social democracies, where people still have a capitalist system and participate in the global capitalist regime, they have just democratically opted for more taxes and stronger social safety nets. Personally, I’ve never had any fear associated with any type of safety net, but then the USSR fell when I was like 5 years old.
I don’t see what’s wrong with politicians executing the ideas they were elected to execute. Right wingers act as if this were some kind of Soviet-Style hostile collectivization. Obama isn’t doing anything that’s any more “socialist” than what he said he would do during the campaign.
Of course, here’s some interesting logic:
Republicans believe capital is more important than society as a whole;
They believe that this practice is better for society than actually prioritizing society itself;
Thus, they prioritize what they believe to be the good of society
Ergo, they are indirectly socialists.
So why not cut out capital as the societal middleman?
April 9th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Yeah, I’m with Rob Mac @19. The question is so stupid that no serious media organization should even bother with reporting the poll, except for the purpose of saying how stupid it is. It’s as if you asked people, “Should the government rely on charitable donations to perform its functions, or should it instead confiscate everyone’s income?”
April 9th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Older and wiser makes socialism less popular. Ask these kids after they finish with the downturn.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Yeah, I think we have Republicans to thank for this. All the blabbering about socialism means that a lot of people may well now interpret capitalism as “no government action” and socialism as “lots of government action”. And given the, er, sub-par performance of the former over the past year, I can see how people might start to lean away from that direction. After all, if Obama and his policies = socialism and people like Obama and his policies, doesn’t it stand to reason they’d like socialism? Thanks Republican branding team!
April 9th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
“To be sure, but it’s all grist for the wingnut mill. This can be used as evidence of the diabolical influence exerted on our gullible youth by Acorn, George Soros and other bogeymen du jour.”
Haha, true. Good point, J.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Anyone else hoping that the Obama administration sees this poll?
April 9th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Scott Rasmussen: Paving the way for Bernie Sanders 2016.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
i have been reading the discusion with a detached facination.
you are all such smarty-pants, kewl kids………..to you its
all theory……….but to millions of citizens including the elderly,married couples, single income workers and the very young its all very real. very scary.
i’m sure there is not one of you on this site, that has missed a meal recently, or are currently living in a tent,
or have had to give your kids to a relative, or worse let the
state take them because there is no money where you are from the state, or the federal government. you think there is some kind of a magic safety net out here! well there isn’t!
people are not falling thru the cracks. there is nothing left
to crack. and while you are debating the theories and the government is bailing out the bastards who caused this in the first place, nothing is being done for the people who have been hit the hardest.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Don’t forget, Vermont is also socialist, if you listen to right-wingers. If you like Ben N’ Jerry’s, Phish, snowboarding, and Senators who make cameo appearances in “Batman” movies, you’re probably a socialist.
I think Republicans have really been shooting themselves in the foot by calling everything to the right of GHWB “socialist,” but it’s also the passage of time, yeah. Kids born the day the Berlin Wall fell were old enough to vote in 2008, and it’s not hard to guess who they voted for.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
All you gullible pinkos should read the Rasmussen report more carefully. America is not about to go the way of Europe.
“It is interesting to compare the new results to an earlier survey in which 70% of Americans prefer a free-market economy. The fact that a “free-market economy” attracts substantially more support than “capitalism” may suggest some skepticism about whether capitalism in the United States today relies on free markets.”
“Fifteen percent (15%) of Americans say they prefer a government-managed economy, similar to the 20% support for socialism. Just 14% believe the federal government would do a better job running auto companies, and even fewer believe government would do a better job running financial firms. “
April 9th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Brad, the point is that Rasmussen in non-election periods is a ridiculously biased pollster, asking loaded question after loaded question, then going on Fox News to talk about the results of his polls. He asked a “capitalism vs socialism” absurd question that I think everyone here thought would be like 80-10%, and it wasn’t, which is somewhat surprising.
Now, if you actually wanted unbiased opinions about whether Americans want to “go the way of Europe”, why don’t you look at polls about whether Americans want universal health care, free college, and higher taxes on the rich to pay for these things? I think you’ll find those are quite popular positions. Trying to honestly defend the right-wing position by saying 15% of Americans want a “government-managed economy” (a number so high even I’m surprised by it) is about as intellectually dishonest as you can get.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
It would seem if we define the socialist/capitalist divide as a rather vague difference in beliefs regarding the desirability of the state managing more or less of the economy, that a very big dividing line in the poll is having personal memories of what the 1970’s were like. It would seem that it might be like communism (and no I’m not calling the One a commie), in that the best and surest way to get someone to hate communism is to make him live in a communist country for a time.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Adults under 30 are essentially evenly divided: 37% prefer capitalism, 33% socialism, and 30% are undecided.
If that’s true, you can blame it on the proponents of unregulated capitalism. When reasonable restrictions are removed, people will do what they have always done; play the situation for maximum personal gain. Wall Street just proved it (in spades), and the Republicans still don’t get it.
As pointed out above, the right-wingnuts uses the term “socialism” to describe every idea that Obama has for making sure that anybody who works all their lives will be able to retire and have healthcare. Is it any wonder that the younger generation views the wreckage of our economy and decides “if the right wing says it’s bad, it must be good”?
April 9th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
“All you gullible pinkos should read the Rasmussen report more carefully.”
You realize now that no one’s going to listen to what you have to say or take it seriously. Dick.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Scott Rasmussen has created a need for the term “poll trolling”.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I would think, given the choice between capitalism and full-on socialism, 85% would say capitalism, 3-5% socialism, the rest undecided.
No way. Even in the USSR in 1991, or Poland in 1989 or East Germany in 1989 – i.e. people who lived through the worst of socialism – it was probably much closer to 50/50 than people like to think. If you’re not terribly ambitious, or old, or just lazy, socialism is pretty good. And a lot of people fit those categories. I think there really is no one-size-fits-all economic model that can make more than a slim majority of a given population happy – much as both libertarians and communists would like to claim otherwise.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
“If you’re not terribly ambitious, or old, or just lazy, socialism is pretty good.”
So if you’re ambitious and a hard-worker, you’d theoretically prefer to remake the U.S. in Dubai’s image?
That’s screwed up.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Read my earlier comment: Europe has a free market economy, you freaking moron.
I think what is revealed is a shocking lack of understanding on the right of European society. Have you ever bought anything from Ikea? Volvo? Philips? Michelin? Le Creuset? Shell? T-Mobile? Lego? Mercedes? Puma?
You realize Stalin is not the President of Europe, right?
April 9th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Cool, but remember this is the American public we’re talking about, which surveys have repeatedly shown often have a somewhat… challenged understanding of science and history, to say the least.
But if all the crazy GOP rhetoric is having the effect of increasing support for socialism, well by all means, keep flamin’ away!
April 9th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
In the last few years it seems to me that Capitalism has been defined as “I got mine, screw the rest of you suckers”. Not a good advertisement, especially when short term greed is so clearly on display overriding common good. Each new interaction with that system emphasizes your place in it and how screwed you really are, it is everyman for himself. You cannot be isolated from it, especially on the job. You are just waiting it out and hoping to survive the next disaster heading your way. Doesn’t make any difference how good you are, the market forces are simply beyond your control. All those old self delusions are pretty much gone. I suspect even the winners really know down inside how much dumb luck played in their success, and how easily it could have gone the other way.
Since the cold war ended, you don’t have the false equality of Communism = Socialism out there to bludgeon the masses with either. They don’t see a Socialist Democratic Europe as a threat, somehow that universal health care and safety net does not seem all that terrifying as it once was…
So how can you demonize socialism now? Sure they tell you that the socialists are going to take away your guns and all that, but that only appeals to the core of the dying old right and they are, well, dying.
So maybe working together for a common good is not all that repulsive any more. Who knew…? Maybe the grownups do have a chance to fix things.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Adults under 30 are essentially evenly divided: 37% prefer capitalism, 33% socialism, and 30% are undecided.
In other news, only 6% of adults under 30 even know what “socialism” means. They can tell you all the latest news from American Idol though.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
“In other news, only 6% of adults under 30 even know what “socialism” means.”
Where does the 6% figure come from?
April 9th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
“No offense, Fostert, but it’s people around your age that destroyed and disgraced capitalism by letting greedy monsters run wild with it.”
No offense taken. Our record speaks volumes for itself. And it ain’t pretty. I opposed the deregulation of the nineties, but a lot of good it did.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Uh, excuse me, not only have we had a Socialist party but we still do.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Essentially, the word “socialist” is used by Republicans to describe anything that differs from deregulation and lower taxes. In this way, it becomes a divisive word, coming down on the “against us” side of the always black and white “with us or against us” dichotomy that they use to evaluate everything.
Similarly, the way that the Republican party has made “Christian” == “Conservative Republican” has meant that a lot of people who would otherwise be nominal Christians now identify as entirely secular.
The thing is that when you use certain markers such as “Christian” or “socialist” as identifiers of whether you’re for you or against you, the people who aren’t on your side are going to discard and/or adopt those markers accordingly. Not a bad strategy when you want to marginalize a minority party, but when you’re in the minority, and your opponents are very popular, the Republican party has become responsible for creating a lot more secular socialists in the USA than there would otherwise have been.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Кошмар. Только что смотрел новости просто волоы поднимаются, как же жить будем если цена на нефть так упала. В бюджет заложили одни цифры и доходы, теперь видим другие. Интересно на сколько хватит нам нашего “стабилизационного фонда” с таким подходом. Сорри, что я так близенько к теме. Но это тоже важно, как мне кажется.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Socialism is collectivism. It’s the tyranny of the collective over the individual. You, as an individual, become irrelevant. It’s one size fits all.
It’s a secular religion. Static and dead.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
the ghosts of eugene v. debs and norman thomas, not to mention Big Bill Haywood, would beg to differ, fuckhead.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:16 am
Привет всем. Хочу также выразить глубокую благодарность людям, которые создали этот познавательный блог. Я поражён тем, что столько времени не пользовался им. Уже более недели не могу оторваться от огромного количества невероятно полезной информации. Сейчас рекомендую этот блог своим друзьям, чего советую и вам. Хотя и нашёл случайно ваш блог, но уже сразу понял, что останусь тут надолго. Интуитивно понятый интерфейс – главная заслуга для меня, т.к. моя специальность не требует больших знаний персонального компьютера и знаю основы работы лишь поверхностно.
April 10th, 2009 at 1:34 am
The bailout proved that Socialism is alive and well if you are rich and powerful and have access to the halls of power.
The last 30 years should be known as the Era of Corporate Socialism; the era marked by the remorseless redistribution of national wealth from the majority to the few.
April 10th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Didn’t Eugene Debs get over a million votes in one of the early 20th century elections running for the Socialist party?
April 10th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
А на повестке дня только глянцевый гламур или всесторонний охват? А то вот я мыслей имею всяких много, а визуализировать их не умею…
April 10th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Greedy CEO’s, Bankers and Wall Streeters are bringing America closer to socialism than ever before. If they don’t care about the average worker and continue to fleece the companies they preside over….it will happen.
April 10th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Politics anyone??
http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/politics_pop/index.html
April 11th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Talk about not knowing the history of our country! Norman Thomas ran for President six times on the Socialist Party ticket. He proposed social security, child labor laws, national health insurance and many, many other safety-net initiatives that were later taken up by the New Deal. I heard him speak in 1949. He was electrifying and his sin was being prematurely right.
April 11th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Socialism and Capitalism are not mutually exclusive systems, except in the purest form. And the purest form of both, communism and free market, have failed miserably wherever they have existed. Various blends of the two are found in all democratic governments. We could use more elements of the socialism in the U.S., although corporations, trade associations, and banks have fought tooth and nail to prevent every attempt at this. Check out Ronald Reagan in 1961 speaking out against the evils of Socialized Medicine, the governmental service that we now know as Medicare.
April 11th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Dear Van,
I think you are mistaken. What the GEOs, Bankers and Wall Streeters want is facism, i.e. the oppression of the majority by an elite minority. We have experienced this during the reign of Bush’s criminal gang. Socialism is about sharing, something the rich and the right despise.
April 11th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Мне кажется это не совсем точно. На эту тему имеется несколько мнений. И у каждого человека со своим мировоззрением свое мнение.
April 12th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Кошмар. Только что смотрел новости просто волоы поднимаются, как же жить будем если цена на нефть так упала. В бюджет заложили одни цифры и доходы, теперь видим другие. Интересно на сколько хватит нам нашего “стабилизационного фонда” с таким подходом. Сорри, что я так близенько к теме. Но это тоже важно, как мне кажется.
April 13th, 2009 at 1:59 am
Я, как человек не молодой, очень редко пользовался блогами, считая их бесполезными, но теперь я напрочь изменил своё мнение, посетив этот замечательный блог. Во-первых, понравился доступный интерфейс и удобная навигация, во-вторых – огромное количество полезной информации, которая мне пригодится по профессии наверняка. Теперь буду значительно чаще заходить на блоги, а данный добавлю в закладки для удобства. Отзывов насобиралось также достаточное количество, что и свидетельствует о прекрасной администрации. Большое спасибо что открыли мне глаза. Буду вашим постоянным удовлетворённым посетителем.
April 14th, 2009 at 9:35 am
О, это что-то, недавно где-то уже о таком слышала. Ваше мнение имеет основание быть. Вы понимаете то, о чем пишите. Немного почитав, хотелось бы узнать больше.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Я вообще считаю, что это полная чушь. Лучше пойти и выпить пиво, чем заморачиваться. Наверное вы имеете представление о чем пишите, но я в этом вопросе имею свое принципиально мнение.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Да надо бы над этим задуматься, я этому не уделяю особого внимания, нужно будет пересмотреть действия и предпринять там что бы мой блог ожил, а то только тоны гавнокоментов (спама) действительно хороший пост, респект автору.
April 16th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Мой сайт вчера добавили Яндекс Каталог. Это здорово, я вот сел и специально пару десятков страниц его пролистал. Пурга редкая, у меня даже вопросы возникли не по знакомству ли туда добавляют. Нет, я знаю о том, что за денежу можно оперативно добавиться. Но ведь не платят же общество любителей волнистых попугайчиков. Я не шучу, оно там правда есть. Жесть. Вообщем для себя принял решение все свои проекты попробывать в Яка добавить. Вам тоже рекомендую, сайт хороший, я уже видел где-то что Вам об этом говорили в комментариях.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
А на повестке дня только глянцевый гламур или всесторонний охват? А то вот я мыслей имею всяких много, а визуализировать их не умею…
April 16th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Nice site – pity you have to go to such lengths to moderate it.
I am from Congo and also now’m speaking English, give please true I wrote the following sentence: “Albums on pages bay photos this is photos from bay fishing trips and other miscellaneous shots.”
Waiting for a reply 8), Harden.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Оно то все так, но как по мне если есть посетители на сайтов, то есть и комментарии, т.к. каждый хочет принят участие в обсуждении той или иной темы, тем самым засветиться в кругу блогеров, так что считаю количество комментариев прямопропорционально зависит от количества посетителей,.. ну не берем спам естественно
April 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Странно видеть, что люди остаются безучастными к проблеме. Возможно, это имеет связи с мировым экономическим кризисом. Хотя, конечно, однозначно сказать тяжело. Я сам думал несколько минут прежде, чем написать эти несколько слов. Кто виноват и что делать – это извечная наша проблема, помоему об этом еще Достоевский говорил.
April 18th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Странно видеть, что люди остаются безучастными к проблеме. Возможно, это имеет связи с мировым экономическим кризисом. Хотя, конечно, однозначно сказать тяжело. Я сам думал несколько минут прежде, чем написать эти несколько слов. Кто виноват и что делать – это извечная наша проблема, помоему об этом еще Достоевский говорил.
April 20th, 2009 at 5:39 am
Привет всем. Я далеко не единственная девушка, которая пользуется услугами и информацией данного сайта. Хочу поблагодарить администрацию и всех остальных людей, принимавших участие в создании данного проекта. Для меня этот блог автоматически вошёл в список любимых. Практически всё свободное время я провожу именно здесь, получая новые и новые навыки. Надеюсь, что я не единственная девушка которая регулярно посещает сайты на подобную тематику. Я надолго останусь на этом блоге – говорю это с полной уверенностью. Сейчас иду отдыхать, но наберусь сил и буду заново бороздить просторы вашего блога. Спасибочки!