Matt Yglesias

Dec 5th, 2008 at 5:12 pm

The “L” Word

Of course it’s not surprise that Henry Kissinger is a liar, but you rarely see a journalist straight-up use the word “lie” when describing a prominent public figure. Props to Karen Tumulty.






36 Responses to “The “L” Word”

  1. fostert Says:

    Kissinger is far more than a liar. He’s a war criminal. I’d say he should be sent to The Hague, but that’s too good for him. He should have his eyes gouged out and be forced to beg on the streets of Saigon. I say that because there are many people who were born without eyes because their mothers had Agent Orange dumped on them by Kissinger’s orders. He should suffer their fate.

  2. cmholm Says:

    Kissinger is a liar, and Obama may end up using him anyway, if he seems useful. HRC is headed for State, so it shouldn’t come as a surprise.

    Kissinger, or GWB, or any other leader of a major power, has about as much likelihood of getting tried at the Hague as I do, unless said power is flat on the mat. Henry is going to die an old man in a comfortable co-op in Manhattan.

    On a more practical level, Karen Tumulty just bumped herself off of the Kissingers’ dinner list, leaving her deeply disappointed, I’m sure.

  3. 24AheadDotCom Says:

    Oh yeah, Tumulty is great.

  4. rob Says:

    Dismiss this (24Aheaddotcom) he is a nutter. He is spreading the misinformation that BO was not born in the US. Just clicking on his link will make you more stupid.

  5. fostert Says:

    “has about as much likelihood of getting tried at the Hague as I do”

    Oh no. They will never be tried at The Hague. You, on the other hand, might be. Not that you’ve done anything wrong, but innocent people end up in court all the time. But Kissinger is the guiltiest man alive, and he’ll never face justice. Well, until he dies, at least. May his death come swiftly. And may he be reborn as a gnat on a dog’s asshole. Or at least he could be reborn as a Vietnamese girl afflicted by Agent Orange deformities. And that can happen, Agent Orange never goes away.

  6. 24AheadDotCom Says:

    Actually, “rob” hasn’t revealed who he is not just because he’s a coward, but also because he’s ashamed. See, “rob” probably knows he’s completely misrepresenting my position. And, that’s that we do not definitively know where BHO was born. (If you think that’s definitively known, read everything here and try your best to understand it.)

    So, based on facts, truth, logic, and all those other good things, when Tumulty claimed flat-out that BHO was born in HI she was lying. Because, when you actually examine all the facts of the matter, we do not know for sure. He probably was born there. However, it’s a lie to definitively state that we know where he was born, as Tumulty did.

    Once again, if you disagree, read that link and do your best to understand it.

  7. Rich in PA Says:

    While Tumulty did a good job in that piece, technically she didn’t accuse Kissinger of lying, but rather the McCain campaign. Read it again.

  8. fostert Says:

    “And, that’s that we do not definitively know where BHO was born.”

    Okay, prove to me that our current president was born in the US. You can’t use any legal documents because they can be forged and George HW was in the CIA, and they can easily manufacture those documents. And prove to me that Barbara is George W’s mother. And prove to me that she didn’t have a fling with a French man. And prove to me that George W wasn’t born in Paris. Without the DNA testing that hasn’t been done, it’s impossible. And if we start with the premise that legal documents cannot be used to prove anything, none of us are really citizens, are we? And that includes you. You aren’t a citizen unless I witnessed your birth (and I didn’t). Because I don’t believe any of your documentation. That stuff is obviously forged.

  9. 24AheadDotCom Says:

    fostert: I just posted a link to this page to the AOL Kindergarten Scholars group, asking them to come over here and describe to you – condescending as necessary – why what you wrote is not an answer to what I wrote. I’d run, since I don’t think you’re their intellectual equal.

  10. fostert Says:

    Look 24Ahead, what I posted was pure nonsense. I intended it to be at your intellectual level. That you yourself can’t even refute it says quite a lot. And that you would have to rely on the intellectually superior kindergardners to do your work says a whole lot more. Your argument about Obama relies on the argument that legal documents that have already been scrutinized by our justice system have no validity. That’s just plain stupid. And to make that argument undermines everything we hold dear in our government. But because you believe that, I will still believe that you are an illegal alien that should be deported. If you don’t believe in our legal documents, there’s no reason the INS should either. And if you don’t believe in our courts, you simply aren’t an American. Our courts aren’t perfect, but they do deserve respect. If you can’t give it to them, then leave. And make sure that door hits you in the ass.

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  12. 24AheadDotCom Says:

    For those not laughing hard enough at fostert, note that BHO’s documentation has never been scrutinized by our “justice system”. HI officials have said his cert is on file, but they haven’t revealed anything on it and they haven’t verified it matches the one that BHO put on his site.

    Rather than lying, why not just admit that you’re taking things on faith rather than based on facts?

  13. a Says:

    24-

    Nobody’s laughing at fostert.

  14. rupert Says:

    Agree with “a”

  15. Trevor Says:

    Kissinger will get his due.

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