Matt Yglesias

Dec 20th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

Beware Finland

The future of the Finnish military looks pretty badass. Just saying. Everyone needs to stay on notice — they’re a small country, yes, but a fierce one.

Filed under: Finland, National Security,





40 Responses to “Beware Finland”

  1. Guy Yedwab Says:

    Finland has always been surprisingly tough. Look up the 1939 “Winter War“: they fought the Soviet Union to a standstill.

  2. Pan Says:

    The Finns fought the purge depleted Red Army to a standstill in 39-40. Contrast that with the drubbing they received in the rematch a few years later against a hardened and battle tested Red Army.

  3. Kolohe Says:

    Man, if only there was a C4I system in the world like that. (Although, what’s the deal with the virtual dial at the beginning? That makes no sense.)

  4. liginmaclari.blogcu.com Says:

    http://liginmaclari.blogcu.com/galatasaray-besiktas-canli-izle-galatasaray-besiktas-macini-canli-izle-galatasaray-besiktas-lig-tv-izle-galatasaray-besiktas-macini-canli-seyret-galatasaray-besiktas-maci-galatasaray-besiktas-macini-izle-galatasaray-besiktas-macini-seyret_31670811.html

  5. liginmaclari.blogcu.com Says:

    http://liginmaclari.blogcu.com/galatasaray-besiktas-macini-canli-izle-galatasaray-besiktas-macinin-hakemi-galatasaray-besiktas-macinin-tarihi-21-aralik-pazar-gunu_31278291.html

  6. Jacob Christensen Says:

    The combination of sisu and perkele! can be pretty scary.

  7. Grumpy Says:

    Also, that thing that looked like a guy manipulating a Minority Report interface? That’s actually the 2017 model of Nokia cellphone. Yes, the phones will be androids by then.

  8. Steve Sailer Says:

    A single Finnish sniper killed over 500 Russian soldiers during the Winter War of 1939-40. German liaison officers ranked the performance of Finnish troops as superior to that of German troops, making the Finns the top performers, man for man, of WWII.

  9. Cranky Observer Says:

    That looks like an IAI (Israeli) UAV.

    Cranky

  10. MikeF Says:

    Moral of the story: if you ever see three Finnish generals dragging geometric shapes into the center of a big touch-screen, duck.

  11. Kolohe Says:

    Very little of that equipment is Finnish made, I think. For example, the transport aircraft is more or less the EADS version of the C-130 and is made in Spain. But it’s a recruiting video, not a defense industry one.

  12. CJColucci Says:

    Why is the video in English?

  13. B. Minich Says:

    Yikes! I think it is even more impressive the technology they have to direct their fearsome weaponry. I want cool touch screens for the US military!

    I have to admit, I liked the uniting of the triforce type of thing at the end there to signal the attack. Does this mean Hyrule == Finland? These questions have to be asked!

  14. Barry Freed Says:

    Why is the video in English?

    Because Finnish has fourteen fucking cases.

  15. RR Says:

    We don’t have a military in Finland. We do have defence forces (puolustusvoimat).

    The money splurged on that childish “recruiting video” is a complete waste because service is mandatory for all of the male citizenry. Maybe there is some trouble recruiting enough professional officers.

    Anyway, the Finnish Defence Forces do not threaten anyone who keeps out of Finnish territory. Since WWII we have kept a solid policy of non-involvement in foreign adventures. Unfortunately there is a growing will in the right-wing parties to commit Finnish troops to non-defensive NATO operations.

    I did not like the style of that video. It was childish and menacing, with a lot of presumably expensive toys. What was the small village in the middle of nowhere that got bombed in the end, anyway? Didn’t look like a defensive operation to me. Or maybe there was a particularly boisterous wedding party that deeded to be contained with excessive force. (Based on completely accurate and indisputable intelligence from that drone.)

  16. Emphyrio Says:

    I think all wars should be fought in CGI from now on.

  17. Berken Says:

    The Finns fought the purge depleted Red Army to a standstill in 39-40. Contrast that with the drubbing they received in the rematch a few years later against a hardened and battle tested Red Army.

    They still did amazingly well against incredible odds and against the worlds most powerful military machine. Well enough that the Soviets declared that second war a draw and let them keep their independence.

    Yup, quite the comparison.

  18. Berken Says:

    We don’t have a military in Finland. We do have defence forces (puolustusvoimat).

    Yeah, in the US we have a Department of Defense instead of a Department of War. Don’t kid yourself, it is still a military, and it still serves the purpose of keeping Vladimir Putin from reclaiming old tsarist territories for his new and improved Russian empire.

  19. herostratus Says:

    I’m frightened. Hold me.

  20. SAO Says:

    I dunno, the gigantic 8 meter-long words and complete lack of any hyphens scares me enough to not mess with them.

  21. Lila Says:

    I have always had a two military rules, should I ever somehow become ruler of some military force. In order of importance, they are:

    1. Do not mess with Finland. They kept the USSR out of their homeland, invented the Molotov Cocktail, and drink more than anyone else in Europe. Luckily, if you leave them alone, they will return the favor.

    2. Don’t invade Russia. It’s just stupid.

  22. Ian Says:

    2. Don’t invade Russia, unless your army is a horde of nomadic tribesmen, which solves the logistics problem.

  23. Marshall Says:

    There is a cool tank museum about 90 minutes outside of Helsinki, the Parola tank museum:

    http://www.panssarimuseo.fi/

    What impressed me when I was there were the practical tips on how to disable the various Soviet tanks, and displays on how amour-piercing ordinance really works. (It is only open during the summer.)

    The Finns did OK in the “Continuation War,” (their term for World War II) by the way. They never really threatened the Soviets existence, survived without being occupied, and were the only people to ever bug Adolf Hitler’s private conversation.

  24. Marshall Says:

    Video : Fairly impressive.
    Distributing video using WM : Lame

  25. Argus Says:

    Ok, most of that stuff is US knock offs or was bought from the US or our NATO allies. The Rhode Island NG could take them out. No wonder you guys are so out of touch on Defense issues.

  26. cymatic Says:

    Clearly a message to the Swedes not to get any big ideas.

  27. Berken Says:

    Ok, most of that stuff is US knock offs or was bought from the US or our NATO allies. The Rhode Island NG could take them out. No wonder you guys are so out of touch on Defense issues.

    Wait a minute, are you saying US equipment is so crappy that even the Finns couldn’t win a war using it?

    By the way, very few small countries invent and manufacture their own major hardware. Takes a really big military-industrial complex to do that. It’s no bad reflection on the Finns if they didn’t invent their own missiles and tanks. It’s a matter of what they buy and what they do with it.

    Recall the spanking the Argentine air force nearly gave the Royal Navy back in the Falklands War. If they’d actually had more up to date aircraft and munitions it would have been a massacre.

  28. American Citizen Says:

    The Rhode Island National Guard has ~2 battalions of Military Police, an airlift wing, and some HQ units.

    Finland has 11 brigades (smaller than a US brigade), ~20 independant battalions, and 63 Finnish-made F/A-18’s.

    I give the Finns the advantage against the RING.

  29. viagra Says:

    viagra
    Very interesting site. Hope it will always be alive!

  30. viagra Says:

    I bookmarked this site. Thank you for good job!

  31. zyban Says:

    Very interesting site. Hope it will always be alive!

  32. tramadol Says:

    tramadol
    Great site. Good info

  33. brand viagra Says:

    It is the coolest site,keep so!
    buy cheap viagra

  34. viagra brand Says:

    Great site. Good info
    cheap brand pfizer viagra

  35. cheap viagra Says:

    thanks !! very helpful post! viagra


Jump to Top

About Wonk Room | Contact Us | Terms of Use | Privacy Policy (off-site) | RSS | Donate
© 2005-2008 Center for American Progress Action Fund
imageRegisterimageimageRSSimageimageimage image
image
Advertisement

Visit Our Affiliated Sites

image image
image 

Books By Matthew Yglesias
Book Cover

Heads in the Sand

Buy the book


imageTopic Cloud


Featured

image
Subscribe to the Progress Report




Contact Matthew Yglesias
Use this form to contact blog author Matthew Yglesias.

Name:
Email:
Tip:
(required)


imageArchives


imageBlog Roll


imageAbout Matt YglesiasimageimageContact MeimageimageDonateimage