A Word on Comment Impersonators
The Tech Team has implemented a new something or other that ensures that any comments I leave on posts will have special formatting so as to indicate that they were written by the genuine article (I’ll go comment on this post as soon as it’s up for illustrative purposes). Any other comments are being left by fakers. Along the same lines, some comments today have been signed by “Jennifer Palmieri” or other CAP officials and in case anyone’s confused people should understand that those are all fakes. I believe that kind of thing is technically a violation of our terms, and thus we reserve the right to delete such posts. In practice, we’re not going to do that because I think this has mostly been people joking around and I’m all for having a fun and humorous comment section. But if things get out of hand that may have to be revisited.
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December 22nd, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Here’s a fake one for comparison purposes!
You’re welcome.
–Jen
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Very high tech! Has this faux-commenting always been a problem, or did it only crop up today? Any particular reason?
Is that an elephant right there in the middle of the room?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:14 pm
You are sounding more and more like the Third Deputy Assistant Undersecretary of some group of hacks.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:18 pm
How about “A Word on CAP hosting and journalistic indepence”?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:18 pm
I hate to be such an attention whore, but is there any way that this blog could comment on me? Thanks so much.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Maybe the Tech Team has a feature that can block editorial interference.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:20 pm
“A fun and humorous comment section.”
You could call it that. Or you could call it a lot of disappointed, unhappy people. I suppose it depends on how you’re being instructed to look at it.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
I really, really don’t understand people who don’t see a difference between a political action group and an online magazine. Really. Again– where did you guys get the idea that publishing under CAPs name and drawing a paycheck from CAP would have no consequences? Whose idea was that?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Josh Trevino lives!
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
It should have read: ““A Word on CAP hosting and journalistic independence”.
This typo was in memoriam of Matt’s blog, before it was seized by Jennifer Palmieri and the Obama transition team (I kid!…?).
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Can we get some special formatting for when Jennifer Palmieri, public relations expert, posts instead of you?
Or can you color-code your posts based on whether or not they’re something Jennifer Palmieri, public relations expert, has approved or not? That would make for a much more user-friendly blog.
Maybe a sliding scale – bright red is Jennifer herself posting, medium red are posts specifically approved by her, dull red are posts that you’ve intentionally modified to be more acceptable to her but that she hasn’t specifically commented upon, etc., with a similar color scheme in blue for things she’s likely to disapprove of, all the way to bright blue for you announcing your resignation and imminent return to the Atlantic?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
It’s pretty hilarious that tens of thousands of words of virulent racist commentary can go unnoted, but a few obviously fake comments from CAP personnel require immediate action.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Great post!
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Just as a heads up, I am not in reality the famed slugger known as “Bye-Bye Balboni”.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:26 pm
All posts by Epimenides are fake.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Freddie says:
You make a good point. I honestly hadn’t given this any thought until the Palmieri incident. Before blogging at CAP, Matt’s always been a pretty independent guy. It’s clear now that he’s not anymore. And hey, that’s okay. But I think what you’re seeing in the comments here is a lot of illusions being shattered.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Speaking of the comment interface, anyone notice that, while you’ve the option of entering your Web site, doing so has no visible effect?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Matt- I continue to be amazed by your unwillingness to comment more fully about your growing credibility gap. I know this mess is not of your making. But you cannot simply ignore it. And referencing the comment fakery without addressing the underlying issue only exacerbates the problem. Come on, Matt. You are doing your readers AND yourself a disservice here. Please clear the air.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:27 pm
The proper technical term is “somethingoroother”, by the way.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:27 pm
How do we even know that Jennifer Palmieri didn’t write this post on Matt’s blog? Seems like there’s a need for a technical solution that indicates a posting was actually written by Matt. I’m guessing the most convincing technical solution would be for Matt to move his byline to another venue.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:27 pm
I am confused! The supposedly unfakeable Matt comment is signed Jen as in Palmieri?? That’s either a really funny joke by Matt who has not been allowed to address the controversy by his quasi-corporate overlords, or totally confusing. Did I miss the post where Matt explains what happened with one of his bosses commandeering his blog, thus arousing an all-time long comment thread last night and bloggers’ posts among the liberal illuminati… ???
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:28 pm
I think most of us have been under the misapprehension that this has been an independent blog under the umbrella of Think Progress and CAP. Now we learn it’s just Think Progress with a separate byline. So why the subterfuge? Why not just publish on TP’s front page under your byline? That way, we all know your content is being screened and edited like contributions from any others instead of leading readers to believe it is truly independent content.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Disappoint me. It’s what I live for.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
It seems, based on his so far failing to address the so-called “elephant in the room,” that Matt Y. has a degree of contempt for some of his commenters.
It also seems that the contempt is pretty much justified. Do you have any idea how silly you sound?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:34 pm
For the curious, Matt doesn’t blog for CAP. The Center for American Progress is a 501(c)(3) organization, dedicated to ideas and research.
Matt blogs for the CAP Action Fund – a 501(c)(4), dedicated to advocacy. And that’s why a flack like Jennifer Palmieri was left in charge of CAPAF during Podesta’s absence – the whole point of CAPAF is to sell ideas, not to generate them.
ThinkProgress is a project of CAPAF, not CAP. And if you thought that didn’t matter, well, Ms. Palmieri was more than happy to disabuse you.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Matt,
I mostly lurk. I may have left a few comments in the past but I am not sure. I am bringing that up to say that I am not one who feels the need to comment on every thing that everyone posts. Obviously, the point I am going to make now has already been made by 100s of others and yet I feel compelled to add my voice to the chorus: I cannot believe that you seriously think you can leave the issue of Palmieri’s special comment unaddressed.
If your strategy is to wait it out and hope everyone eventually stops discussing the matter, that will probably work soon enough. The problem is that the incident will still not be forgotten and any credibility lost will not be regained.
I really don’t think its asking a great deal to have an explanation of what happened here and at least some brief discussion that contextualizes Palmieri’s action within the general editorial environment for this blog. Do you?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:34 pm
RAM, again, would you go to the website of any political action campaign and find someone writing on that website, under their header, on their URL, with their software, being paid by them, and expect that the person not to be somewhat constrained by the organization? I actually find that Matt has pretty free rein, given what CAP is (and what it is not), but I’m not under any illusions.
I think this was a conversation that needed to happen when Matt moved to CAP in the first place. Perhaps he or they did an inadequate job of explaining the change, which is certainly possible. And I have sympathy for people who are disillusioned. But this isn’t a facet of Matt Yglesias’s unique duplicity, or of CAP’s unique nefariousness. This is a facet of what it means to work for a political advocacy group.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:35 pm
I forget to post my comment! What does this actually look like?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Sorry, Matt. Better get the tech guys to head back to the drawing board.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:37 pm
JohnH, December 22nd, 2008 at 2:27 pm:
You mean, you do not have links visible in your browser?
Let me help … in your comment, your name links toNew.York.Art.Crit: John Haber’s Art Reviews … was that where you intended the link to end up?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:37 pm
What does this actually look like?
Failure.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:37 pm
To Matt at 28:
Like you need to turn your proofreader on. Otherwise, pretty ugly.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
It looks like you still avoiding the real issue, Matt. It also looks like a mustard-colored box is forming the background for your post.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Freddie, I don’t think I was under any particular illusions that Matt wouldn’t come under some influence from the CAP superstructure. But he did explicitly say, before the move, “From a reader’s point of view, this probably won’t make a huge difference– the blog will have a different URL and a different design so it’ll fit in with the ThinkProgress family, but the blog has changed URLs and designs several times in the past so that’s nothing new.” Plus, CAP’s intention when it brought him on, clearly, was to get Matthew Yglesias, his audience, and his assorted views as they currently existed; that’s not the same as hiring Howard Wolfson.
Moreover, this isn’t just a matter of Matt selecting content that fits in with CAP’s message. CAP’s (acting) CEO publicly reproached him in his own, public space; that’s a big deal in any institutional environment. See, for a rough analogy, Larry Summers and Cornel West.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Cool, now myglesias links to the Atlantic magazine site. Is that a sign of things to come?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Also want to add my voice to those asking for further explanation. I’ll probably just be reading just the comments until then. Freddie @ 27 is probably right, but why not have the discussion now? And please everyone keep up the pressure – Maybe it puts MY in a difficult situation, but it also puts pressure on CAP, hopefully.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:40 pm
What does this actually look like?
Someone not seeing the elephant. (or pretending not to)
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:40 pm
“The Tech Team has implemented a new something or other that ensures …”
Please, oh, please never use the term “automagically”. Or I swear I will stop reading your blog.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Your web guys could just disallow certain names to make comments too, like your own, or a combination of name, email address and/or website. I was thinking about that earlier, as long as we know what your signature is, and noone else can you use it, we know it’s you, though I imagine regular readers knew those weren’t you or Jennifer.
The special formatting would be cool too, because then it wouldn’t have to be an “in the know” situation.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:43 pm
No, no! This is my real comment. What does this one look like?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Apparently the technical solution failed, but it would be a good idea to work something out. In the meantime, maybe Matt could point out which of the various comments related to the current fiasco were made by him rather than an impostor.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
What’s everyone’s favorite Way? Mine is the Third.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
I love all of y’all; god bless you everyone!
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:46 pm
No, really. All my comments are in italics. What does this one look like?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Jimm, I agree that the fake Palmieri comments were obvious, but there were several Yglesias comments that could easily have been from him. I’d like to know if any of them were.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:47 pm
“From a reader’s point of view, this probably won’t make a huge difference– the blog will have a different URL and a different design so it’ll fit in with the ThinkProgress family, but the blog has changed URLs and designs several times in the past so that’s nothing new.”
That, southpaw, seems like a mistake to have said, to me. Look I’m not trying to say what’s what, only that, to me, this is kind of to be expected– to be honest, I thought something like this would happen a lot sooner.
These are new grounds we’re treading in here. Even high-profile columnists at major newspapers have some sort of editorial review. The expectations for blogging, meanwhile, are very different, but I think as more people get paid for the work, the more the idealism is running up against the ground of how employment in media works. Being a paid blogger for a website like the Atlantic or Culture11 is pretty nuts. You get paid by an organization to say pretty much whatever you feel like saying. There’s a reason jobs like that are rare. If I could wave a magic wand and make it so that Matt could just opine all day on whatever floated into his head, I’d do it. But when people pay you, they want something in return. And Matt said, way back when, that he wanted to be in a position of more clear-cut advocacy then he had been at the Atlantic. He wanted to be involved in political action, not just political commentary. Personally, I think that’s laudable. But it has consequences.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Matt:
Along with what others have said, the longer you delay any response to Ms. Palmieri’s intrusion, the more it looks like you’re holding off in order to get management’s approval on whatever it is you finally do post.
Quicker would be cleaner.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:48 pm
If I was Matt I’d be pissed off, but also smart enough to realize that its probably not a good idea to address the censorship issue without an adequate cooling off period.
Give the man some time.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:49 pm
What does this actually look like?
“Maize,” according to my Crayola 64 set (w/ free crayon sharpener).
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:49 pm
looks great matt. Now we’ll no that you’re not responding to your readers concerns with absolute certainty!
way to go!
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Hey Jen, Rick Warren is impersonating me. 43
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:50 pm
I want someone to tell me what to think about the work product of other D.C. think tanks.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:50 pm
How that elephant got in my pajamas, I’ll never know
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:51 pm
You can just retcon a comment policy onto your blog to explain everything. The CAP host with Matt Yglesias can create special guest posts by Jennifer Palmieri but those posts only appear when Third Way is infected by an alien parasite which causes them to see the future where their startling irrelevance produces a great fear in the Way which causes rifts in the blog universe. Meanwhile, Evan Bayh has his usual mayonnaise on white bread for lunch. Mayonnaise and bleached grain apparently share the spectral properties of the exploded sun (a very White dwarf) from the home universe of the alien parasite. Confronted with the a blast of Third Mayo the invader alien parasite is thrown out of this space-time continuum, at least until the 2010 elections.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:53 pm
The puke-colored box indicates an editorial-interference-free zone.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Re Matthew’s statement “ensures that any comments I leave on posts will have special formatting so as to indicate that they were written by the genuine article”
———————–
I would suggest something Biblical. A Halo? Nah — that’s Christian.
How about bookending your comments with two angels with uplifted wings (Ark of Convenant) with a radioactive glow emanating from the text?
Or maybe a Burning Bush icon?
Stone background with chiseled text?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Does that “editorial review” consist of having an editor hijack the column and post content-free praise of the previously criticized organization under the columnist’s photo?
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Ah, after a shift-reload I’ve got the new stylesheet and am seeing the color.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Maybe you could get the tech geniuses at CAP to point mattyglesias.com to your site here, that’s assuming you are still employed at CAPAF or whatever.
I personally understand that in times like these – with a severe depression ahead of us – that it might be difficult to find another institution that would pay you to write your opinion all day. That might be the reason why you’re going to not rock any more boats at CAPAF.
But you’d think in a world that where Ruth Marcus, David Brooks, Tom Friedman, Megan McArdle and Robert Samuelson can find paying work, you could get something that pays AND gives you more freedom. CAPAF seems like a good platform if you want to cycle in and out of Democratic administrations while still maintaining some Progessive cred. It’s sort of like the Heritage Foundation in reverse. Or AEI.
But for people who genuinely care about simply giving voice to intelligent perspectives, what’s the big advantage offered by a place like the Center for American Progress? I don’t see it.
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Absolutely freddie… I actually agree completely.
But the whole point is that we want to know the limits, we want to know the what, how, and why. I have no problems with matt having restriction, I just need to know what those restrictions, if any, are so I can adjust my perception for those when he posts.
Just ignoring the questions isn’t the solution. It’s not that we want to hear answers we like, we just want to have some disclosure.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Does that “editorial review” consist of having an editor hijack the column and post content-free praise of the previously criticized organization under the columnist’s photo?
No. But then, CAP isn’t a newspaper, right?
But the whole point is that we want to know the limits, we want to know the what, how, and why. I have no problems with matt having restriction, I just need to know what those restrictions, if any, are so I can adjust my perception for those when he posts.
I agree with that completely.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
If I was Matt I’d be pissed off, but also smart enough to realize that its probably not a good idea to address the censorship issue without an adequate cooling off period.
Absolutely. Good public relations theory says to keep your mouth shut, and then issue a clarification for the record after the heat has moved off you. It’s worked well for Rahm Emmanuel and Blagojevich, so it should work well in this case.
I mean that in all seriousness, not as a dig.
I gathered Matt has always been constrained by CAP – see the evolution of his thought from being opposed to the auto bailout (CAP is for it) to slowly over time becoming more supportive of it or silent about it. But it’s always good to have such constraints be explicit so everyone knows that Matt is saying certain things he believes, and either shading or not saying things he also believes but which CAP does not approve.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Fail?
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Your tech people need to add some “padding-left” of 5 or 10 pixels. A gradient graphic for the background would also improve that really ugly mustard yellow color. yuck.
That is all, thanks.
Oh and your overlords should speak directly with you about any problem they have with your posts rather than intruding as they did under cover of darkness. But that has been said which is why I only lurk….
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Testing.
Testing.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Egads, people, don’t you know that *of course* I can post whatever I want on my blog?
For instance, I want the world to know that Third Way is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful group I’ve ever known in my life.
And Jennifer Palmieri is as sweet as Mrs. Iselin from “The Manchurian Candidate.”
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:07 pm
> either shading or not saying things he also believes but which CAP does not approve.
If that’s what he’s doing, why should we want to read him? Why
not just read CAP’s own official policy proposals?
I click on “Matt Yglesias” occasionally from blogrolls on other websites. After this business, I won’t bother. Bye.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:10 pm
I don’t trust Jennifer Palmieri…she’s an Arab.
Seriously, folks, I seem to recall it working out pretty well for MY to passively let the mob to his work for him regarding the signed-post thing at tapped. Whatever.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:11 pm
So your analogy to a newspaper is okay, but mine isn’t? The point isn’t that Matt is under some sort of editorial control. It’s that Palmieri’s action was a completely inappropriate way of handling things on a blog, as can be seen by the way it made the situation orders of magnitude worse for Third Way.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Please, all you holier-than-thous… get a life.
What planet do you morons live on?
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Comment coloring is a good move (and quite easy to implement in wordpress), but I also think the infamous Jennifer Palmieri would have gotten less of a reaction had it been formatted differently then normal posts (equally easy to implement).
I don’t think it’s that odd to have a message from the organization hosting a blog appear on said blog, so I was certainly surprised by the comment onslaught. I think making the whole thing look a little more official would have defused the situation somewhat.
Also, it’s weird that this blog has a “register” button up top, but folks can’t actually register. At passiveaggressivenotes.com, we let users register, and then when a comment is left by a registered user, a little exclamation point icon appears next to their name. This prevents folks from impersonating the regulars. Facebook Connect (which Techcrunch now uses to let commenters log in), will also help with this once someone makes a good wordpress plugin for it.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:14 pm
I believe Matt is unable to comment about this as of yet because he’s still responding to what happened in-house. My guess is that when that’s finished he will be able to comment on this directly within his blog. Matt doesn’t have a history of ignoring issues as far as I can tell. He’s earned some patience. I can’t imagine he isn’t furious about this. My strong hope is that Jennifer/CAP issues an apology clearly in Matt’s blog. If they don’t do something clear to walk their action on this back, Matt may need to consider finding another employer or his credibility will remain tarnished. They humiliated him.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Hugh, the only humiliating thing here is people thinking “Credibility” has been tarnished.
Have any of you idiots ever had a job?
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Yes, Palmieri’s post was ham-handed and creepy, as Andrew Sullivan and others have noted, and I’d guess that by now she wishes she’d never written it.
I think Matt’s “weak cup of tea” post was a nice response, clearly asserting his intention to continue to write what he thinks, without self-censorship.
A more pompous, vain, or insecure blogger (or Bill O’Reilly, or just about any rapper) might have felt the need to sputter furiously about being “disrespected,” and carry on in a drama of indignation. Pompous, vain, or insecure readers may be similarly inclined.
I think it speaks well of Matt’s self-confidence that he does not feel the need to engage in such melodramatics.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:28 pm
The market appears to be speaking and it wants Matt to speak freely and respond to the elephant in the room. Meanwhile, the regulators who are supposed to protect Matt and provide him with necessities for living are intervening and impeding the natural workings of the market. As a result, Matt’s reputation is taking a serious hit and he may not ever recover.
I guess regulatory oversight does not work…on the Internet.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:28 pm
This is to alert the CAP website that Jennifer Palimeri’s posts at #70 and #73 aren’t being highlighted, and they’ve replaced the username with “there is no issue”.
Can we fix this so the highlight appears, and Palimeri’s posts resume using the name “Matthew Yglesias”?
Thank you.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:32 pm
I don’t get it. Nobody in comments ever agrees with MY anyway. Why should we give a fuck if he’s sincerely a trust-fund hipster douchebag or if he’s just being paid to be one?
Also, if a comment is correctly typed, it wasn’t MY.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Go back to TPM, an organization with integrity, or start your own blog at blog.com or typepad.com. No technical expertise required.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I love meta posts!
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:36 pm
What’s really going to bake your noodle? There is no Matthew Yglesias. It’s been Jennifer Palmieiri the whole time.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Luke,
One problem with using spelling to determine whether MY is the true author is that other people (such as, say, Jennifer Palmieri, who couldn’t spell “Progress”) also suck at spelling.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Has anyone suggested Ms. Palmieri get her own blog? That way, she and Matt can link each other on pressing issues.
December 22nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I’m a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt, and my butt smells and I like to smell my own butt.
December 22nd, 2008 at 4:03 pm
The new-fangled comment style would appear to be implemented by the “comment_admin” class from the style sheet.
December 22nd, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Why should we give a fuck if he’s sincerely a trust-fund hipster douchebag
Excuse me, the term is “trust fund scumbag.” Every true MY commenter knows that. Is this some Third Way commenter?
December 22nd, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Hey, how do I make my box brown like that one fake myglesias did?
December 22nd, 2008 at 4:14 pm
If your “Tech Team” (pardon me while I laugh) is so good, how about implementing software that allows us to edit our posts?
Matt Yglesias at #83 wins the thread, by the way.
Elwood: TPM an organization with integrity? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That asshole Marshall banned people from his lousy site the very weekend after he promised everybody he wouldn’t because his fucking hot buttons got pressed about Israel. Josh Marshall has no integrity. He’s a hypocrite and an intellectual coward who won’t engage his readers except by drive-by snark.
December 22nd, 2008 at 4:30 pm
After some consideration, I’ve changed my mind.
I won’t use any special formatting on my own comments.
In fact, if you see a comment by “myglesias” with special formatting on it, that means that someone hacked into our system and changed the code for this site, in an attempt to impersonate me with extra verisimilitude.
So if a specially formatted comment by “myglesias” should appear, you definitely should ignore what that person says, because he is just trying to steal my identity and fool you.
December 22nd, 2008 at 6:29 pm
I am Spartacus.
December 22nd, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Do I assume some rival Tech Team has defeated your Tech Team in some sort of high tech web-site-altering competition, and hence the lack of special formatting? Or am I missing something?
December 22nd, 2008 at 7:32 pm
MY, you should just get some block on the name “myglesias” in the name field.
December 22nd, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Long overdue, you really have to cut down on the fakers.
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Which half is up to you.
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