Matt Yglesias

Dec 26th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

A Rising Tide

Via Ben Armbruster, the US Geological Survey says previous reports may have been too optimistic about the likely rise in sea levels facing the United States:

In one of the report’s most worrisome findings, the agency estimates that in light of recent ice sheet melting, global sea levels could rise as much as 4 feet by 2100. The intergovernment panel had projected a rise of no more than 1.5 feet by that time, but satellite data over the last two years show the world’s major ice sheets are melting much more rapidly than previously thought. The Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets are losing an average of 48 cubic miles of ice a year, equivalent to twice the amount of ice in the Alps.

But there was unseasonable snow somewhere last week, so I’d say continuing to ignore this problem makes a lot of sense.

Filed under: climate, Sea Level,





24 Responses to “A Rising Tide”

  1. MAX HATS Says:

    In 25 years, the conservatives of the future will find some way to blame climate change on liberals. Those who will grudgingly admit it occurred, anyway.

  2. The CAP Cleaning Staff Says:

    Rather than focusing on man-made Global Warming, which— as we all know— is “controversial”, perhaps Obama should use the stimulus money to prop both coasts up on giant stilts.

  3. Bajsa Says:

    It may have been unseasonably cold in the U.S., but here in Stockholm, it has been one of the warmest Decembers (maybe THE warmest) on record.

  4. theCoach Says:

    Where does Lou Dobbs fall on the ideological spectrum? Faux populist? Have you see him on ‘global warming’? He sounds exactly like the last paragraph with an added dose of additional superiority — very weird.

  5. MikeJ Says:

    Snow is unseasonable in winter?

  6. anandine Says:

    I thought the 1.5 foot prediction was based solely on thermal expansion of the existing seas, without regard to water added when ice melts. If all the ice on land melted, sea levels would rise a couple of hundred feet.

  7. Richard Steven Hack Says:

    By 2100, Transhumans will have eliminated all your worries about global warming – and anything else.

    Meanwhile, if the coasts are going to be flooded up to four feet, then try moving inland. Might be a problem for certain countries who are below sea level as it is, but that was as smart as living on the Mississippi flood plain anyway.

    Eventually you chimps will pay for your mistakes. Instead of spending trillions on war games over the last hundred years, you could have got your heads out of your asses. But no!

    So I couldn’t care less about global warming.

    Have a nice day!

  8. Dan B Says:

    The Climate Change article on ABC News is one small piece of consistently devastating news over the last few days from Poznan, the American Geophysical Union Conference, NASA http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/17/nasa-another-brutally-hot-year-for-the-siberian-tundra/, and the International Arctic Change conference http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=45121

    From Poznan, Phillip Ciais, the incoming chairman of the Global Carbon Project states that melting permafrost that covers tens of millions of acres in Siberia and Canada released a fraction of its huge stores of frozen methane in a sudden surge last year. “Once this process starts, it could soon become unstoppable, [it is one of the] “tipping points” most feared by climate scientists. “It is too early to say if we have passed that threshold. But once it is passed, even zero emissions of CO2 won’t stop the warming.” Fred Pearce from New Scientist Magazine (not yet available on the Web)

    What headline would the MSM print if they believed this report was important or newsworthy?

    Scientists Predict Runaway Global Warming

    Devastating Global Warming Inevitable, say Scientists

    ??

  9. r€nato Says:

    Shorter Republicans: “Coastal flooding? Fuck the Atlantic and Pacific coasts; they didn’t vote for us anyway.”

  10. Sam M Says:

    I think it’s awesome that we also take shots at idiots who claim that every unseasonably warm day is proof positive of a global climate apocalypse.

    Oh wait. We don’t do that here.

  11. The CAP Cleaning Staff Says:

    “I think it’s awesome that we also take shots at idiots who claim that every unseasonably warm day is proof positive of a global climate apocalypse. Oh wait. We don’t do that here.”

    Touche. I’m going to buy a Hummer, just as soon as I’m done personally apologizing to all the idiots I’ve wronged on this website.

  12. James Gary Says:

    I think it’s awesome that we also take shots at idiots who claim that every unseasonably warm day is proof positive of a global climate apocalypse. Oh wait. We don’t do that here.

    You are correct—we don’t. Would you care to cite an example (one will suffice) of either Matt or any commenter on this site actually taking a shot at an idiot who claims that every unseasonably warm day is proof positive of a global climate apocalypse? Or are you, for reasons I can’t begin to imagine, just stating the obvious?

  13. El Cid Says:

    By 2200 we biogermals will have defeated all the transhumans and will laugh at their stupid rusting cyber-sophistication.

  14. joe from Lowell Says:

    People who point to unseasonably warm days as evidence of global warming aren’t worth taking shots at, because their voices are so utterly irrelevant and marginal in the discourse about the subject. They are completely swamped by the statements and information coming out of the scientific community.

    As opposed to their denialist counterparts, who actually are their own side’s predominant voices, making the central argument that defines their cause. This makes them eminently worthy of potshots.

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