Nate Silver provides some statistical analysis of what distinguishes Sarah Palin’s real America from the fake America where the rest of us live. Basically, real America has more non-Hispanic whites.
McCain, the real American President for the real America.
Problem is, “fake America” gets to vote (and probably outnumbers “real America”). So McCain winning just in real America might not be enough for him to make it into the real White House.
Given how much of a rump “real America” has been reduced to (probably losing Colorado, Ohio, Missouri, Virginia, etc to “fake America”), it would seem to me to be more accurate to say that Real America has fewer non-whites and Hispanics than to say that it has more non-Hispanic whites. After all, one must remember that there are a lot more non-Hispanic whites in Chicago than there are in Wasilla. However, there are more blacks and hispanics in Chicago than there are in Wasilla be an even greater order of magnitude than that by which Chicago’s non-Hispanic white population exceeds Wasilla’s.
We can joke about this, but there really is a Real America. I’ve been to 49 states, and you won’t find it there, but you will find it everywhere in the world. America is a diverse country made up of mostly immigrants. And our borders have changed over time. We aren’t a land area, or a people. We are an idea. We are a bunch of random people who agree to a concept that’s written on paper. We are the Constitution. That is the one thing that binds us. The Real America is that ideal. And we are just people who agree to that ideal. That’s America.
“Real America” is wherever a lot of people live who think that some Americans shouldn’t count as real Americans.
In my experience, this describes the coasts (CA and NY) quite well; tons of people live in these places who speak of people in flyover country dismissively and derisively as if they don’t count.
fostert
We are a bunch of random people who agree to a concept that’s written on paper. We are the Constitution. That is the one thing that binds us. The Real America is that ideal. And we are just people who agree to that ideal. That’s America.
By that definition of what America is, a sizable fraction of the Americans I’ve met, known, and heard from (e.g. in media/public life) aren’t Americans.
“By that definition of what America is, a sizable fraction of the Americans I’ve met, known, and heard from (e.g. in media/public life) aren’t Americans.”
How so? People may legitimately disagree on what the Constitution means, but we do agree that it rules the land, right? We can accept that even the President cannot violate the law, can’t we? Okay, we didn’t do it for the last eight years, but we can try again. I’m sure the Republicans will be eager to do so once Obama’s in power.
The fact is, Real America is here, in the Heartland. Where we work hard, are not eleitists, support the troops and our president, salute the flag, say the pledge and want lower taxes to build prosperity, and do not need biased science and history taught in our schools, or biased liberal media on the air. We are not voting for Obama — he is a terrorist, is biased toward the hard left and socialism, and he is a Muslim who will bring in Shania Law.
But her America is “pro-America America,” so it’s patriotic. The rest of us are a bunch of terrorist-loving minorities. Who would want that? (Sarcasm…Sarcasm…)
Nice whining from Flyover. Since we poor stupid Californians get stuck with providing a great deal more in tax revenuesto the federal government (and the other 49 states) than we get from Washington (and, again, the other states), and since my electoral vote, as a Californian, is worth about one-seventh that of someone from Wyoming (and my Senatorial influence is diluted similarly–we’re about fifteen percent of the nation’s population her, but somehow only two percent of the Senate), well…I guess we just don’t have anything to complain about, huh?
Tell you what, charmer–when Flyover pays California back and when we’re represented proportionally to our population, the you can whinge about how you’re treated dismissively.
I’m so fucking tired of the hypocritical red states dissing liberal blue states where people actually conform more to the socially conservative ideals of red states. Everyone in America gets made fun of. Whining about being called a “flyover state” just makes you a pussy. Meanwhile, do politicians complain about the racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic and Islamophobic jokes told about America’s cities? Not really. When you vote twice for Bush the retarded chimp who then proceeds to fuck everything up royally, you don’t get to lecture the rest of us on anything.
Well, I was merely responding to the following “whine”: “Real America” is wherever a lot of people live who think that some Americans shouldn’t count as real Americans. Which whine is better/more valid? You tell me.
You can make out your checks to “Treasurer, State of California”.
Been there, done that. For many many years, Doc Presumptuous.
Which is more valid? First, the one that isn’t a whine–DTM’s entry. Second, the one that best approximates the facts–again, DTM’s entry.
I know that you’re persecuted by the big, bad liberal establishment, Charmer, and that’s why you’re forced to pay taxes in the state in which you live/used to live, as well as forcing you to have to interact with evil Coastal Elites. Horrors. Pass me a tissue, won’t you? I’m feeling myself misting up at the thought of your plight…
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. (AP) – Departing state Treasurer Sarah Steelman will teach a political science class at Missouri State University next year. Steelman will be the school’s first “executive in residence” – a newly
October 18th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
looks pretty cool.
http://culturedecoded.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/overview-was-sarah-palin-worth-it/
October 18th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
“Real America” is wherever a lot of people live who think that some Americans shouldn’t count as real Americans.
October 18th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
McCain, the American president for America.
October 18th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
McCain, the American American president for an American America
October 18th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Shouldn’t it be:
Problem is, “fake America” gets to vote (and probably outnumbers “real America”). So McCain winning just in real America might not be enough for him to make it into the real White House.
October 18th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Real Americans. Real Christian Americans.
That’s completely congruent with Palin running against a guy named “Stein” for 1st Christian Mayor of Wasilla.
There is no possible spin on that which doesn’t render Palin a horror show.
October 18th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
If this year’s election has a 10% higher turnout than 2004 and Barack wins 52.5% of the vote, he will get 70,000,000 votes.
Expect both of these percentage to be higher.
October 19th, 2008 at 3:30 am
Given how much of a rump “real America” has been reduced to (probably losing Colorado, Ohio, Missouri, Virginia, etc to “fake America”), it would seem to me to be more accurate to say that Real America has fewer non-whites and Hispanics than to say that it has more non-Hispanic whites. After all, one must remember that there are a lot more non-Hispanic whites in Chicago than there are in Wasilla. However, there are more blacks and hispanics in Chicago than there are in Wasilla be an even greater order of magnitude than that by which Chicago’s non-Hispanic white population exceeds Wasilla’s.
October 19th, 2008 at 4:49 am
We can joke about this, but there really is a Real America. I’ve been to 49 states, and you won’t find it there, but you will find it everywhere in the world. America is a diverse country made up of mostly immigrants. And our borders have changed over time. We aren’t a land area, or a people. We are an idea. We are a bunch of random people who agree to a concept that’s written on paper. We are the Constitution. That is the one thing that binds us. The Real America is that ideal. And we are just people who agree to that ideal. That’s America.
October 19th, 2008 at 7:41 am
DTM
“Real America” is wherever a lot of people live who think that some Americans shouldn’t count as real Americans.
In my experience, this describes the coasts (CA and NY) quite well; tons of people live in these places who speak of people in flyover country dismissively and derisively as if they don’t count.
fostert
We are a bunch of random people who agree to a concept that’s written on paper. We are the Constitution. That is the one thing that binds us. The Real America is that ideal. And we are just people who agree to that ideal. That’s America.
By that definition of what America is, a sizable fraction of the Americans I’ve met, known, and heard from (e.g. in media/public life) aren’t Americans.
October 19th, 2008 at 8:05 am
“By that definition of what America is, a sizable fraction of the Americans I’ve met, known, and heard from (e.g. in media/public life) aren’t Americans.”
How so? People may legitimately disagree on what the Constitution means, but we do agree that it rules the land, right? We can accept that even the President cannot violate the law, can’t we? Okay, we didn’t do it for the last eight years, but we can try again. I’m sure the Republicans will be eager to do so once Obama’s in power.
October 19th, 2008 at 8:25 am
The fact is, Real America is here, in the Heartland. Where we work hard, are not eleitists, support the troops and our president, salute the flag, say the pledge and want lower taxes to build prosperity, and do not need biased science and history taught in our schools, or biased liberal media on the air. We are not voting for Obama — he is a terrorist, is biased toward the hard left and socialism, and he is a Muslim who will bring in Shania Law.
October 19th, 2008 at 8:37 am
But her America is “pro-America America,” so it’s patriotic. The rest of us are a bunch of terrorist-loving minorities. Who would want that? (Sarcasm…Sarcasm…)
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog/
October 19th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Gary Ruppert- And here I thought Shania Twain was Canadian. The bastids!
October 19th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Well, that $150 million dollars came from somewhere, so I’m thinking that the unreal Americans must at least have real money.
October 19th, 2008 at 9:29 am
The fact is, Real America is here, in the Heartland. Where we work hard, are not eleitists
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October 19th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Sonic Charmer–
Nice whining from Flyover. Since we poor stupid Californians get stuck with providing a great deal more in tax revenuesto the federal government (and the other 49 states) than we get from Washington (and, again, the other states), and since my electoral vote, as a Californian, is worth about one-seventh that of someone from Wyoming (and my Senatorial influence is diluted similarly–we’re about fifteen percent of the nation’s population her, but somehow only two percent of the Senate), well…I guess we just don’t have anything to complain about, huh?
Tell you what, charmer–when Flyover pays California back and when we’re represented proportionally to our population, the you can whinge about how you’re treated dismissively.
October 19th, 2008 at 11:18 am
I’m so fucking tired of the hypocritical red states dissing liberal blue states where people actually conform more to the socially conservative ideals of red states. Everyone in America gets made fun of. Whining about being called a “flyover state” just makes you a pussy. Meanwhile, do politicians complain about the racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic and Islamophobic jokes told about America’s cities? Not really. When you vote twice for Bush the retarded chimp who then proceeds to fuck everything up royally, you don’t get to lecture the rest of us on anything.
October 19th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
DocAmazing,
“Nice whining from Flyover. [etc]”
When did I say I live in flyover country? (I don’t)
October 19th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Sonic Charmer–
Nice whining all the same. You can make out your checks to “Treasurer, State of California”.
October 19th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Nice whining all the same.
Well, I was merely responding to the following “whine”: “Real America” is wherever a lot of people live who think that some Americans shouldn’t count as real Americans. Which whine is better/more valid? You tell me.
You can make out your checks to “Treasurer, State of California”.
Been there, done that. For many many years, Doc Presumptuous.
October 19th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Which is more valid? First, the one that isn’t a whine–DTM’s entry. Second, the one that best approximates the facts–again, DTM’s entry.
I know that you’re persecuted by the big, bad liberal establishment, Charmer, and that’s why you’re forced to pay taxes in the state in which you live/used to live, as well as forcing you to have to interact with evil Coastal Elites. Horrors. Pass me a tissue, won’t you? I’m feeling myself misting up at the thought of your plight…
October 19th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Sounded like a whine to me. YMMV I guess, depending on where your sympathies lie. Which is my point
December 12th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
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