I thought the most bizarre McCain joke of the night was when Tom Brokaw asked who he would consider to lead the Treasury Department, and then he snapped “not you, Tom.”
Why didn’t “that one” deny that he was going to appoint Willian Ayres as the Secretary of Education, Jeremiah Wright as Secretary of Amerikkka Hatin’ and the Corpse of Miles Davis as Secretary of Bitches Brew?
A lot of older men have that tone-deaf sense of humor. You see it a lot. I think that as our brains start to shrivel when we age, the flexibility required for a good sense of humor is lost.
“That one” isn’t so bad. My mom’s crazy racist octogenarian aunt (may she rest in peace) used to refer to members of our family as “what’s his/her face”. And these were people she knew well. Sometimes the elderly forget…
Someone really needs to make a faux-music video of that “That One” comment. Lay down a beat over it, possibly to the tune of “My Name Is” by Eminem. Rockin’!
McCain was really weird tonight. I thought he was creepy. There was a moment early in the debate when McCain approached the questioner awkwardly as if approaching an unfamiliar dog and the person sitting in front of the questioner pulled a face and leaned away from the slowly encroaching McCain. Another awkward moment occurred when Sen McCain could be seen in the background creeping over to Tom Brokaw during one of Obama’s answers. It looked like he was some sort of peeping Tom looking over Obama’s shoulder as he crossed the stage. It was a very bizarre performance.
You know, some people compare McCain to Skeletor, but after tonight I think they are all wrong. He is much more like Man-at-Arms. Or Dr. Stranglove without the wheelchair.
The ‘that one’ issue is really weak. If it survives until tomorrow, I’ll be surprised. McCain does have his racist tendencies, but I really don’t think he meant it that way. As for the hair plugs comment, I totally missed it. Must have been doing a bong hit. What was it?
I thought the “not you, Tom” was something in the spirit of, “et tu, brute?”, but in regards to pressing him to go on the record with names… you know? Like, “Oh Tom, tell me you’re not going to try to make me commit to something the news will rake me over for tomorrow…”
I don’t know, it’s a hard one to explain, but I thought that’s what was going on.
Parsing the linguistic intentions in the top two on red ticket this year is really a challenge. Add that to the creative vocabulary and improvisational grammar of the last 8 years, and I think we may be seeing late stage verbal metastasis blooming from the culture of newspeak the GOP has riddled itself with.
I have a hard time believing this was anything other than the normal fumbling of words that happens when you’re speaking off the top of your head. If he had said, “Guess which candidate…” then the follow up “that one” would have made perfect sense. And he probably practiced it that way. But in the flow of things, his setup simply didn’t match the punch line. It’s nothing more than that.
Fostert, it’s the moment that fits most snugly into the media’s “McCain hates Obama” narrative, so it’s the moment that will get replayed.
McCain’s being a pretty unprecedented dick, so I think it’s entirely fair. Also, he made a point of looking at Obama a couple times, so he obviously is aware of the meme but unable to control his actions.
Re: “Not you, Tom” – I suspect something like this might be going on : “Treasury Secretary? How about Phil Gra… I mean Carly Fio…. well, I don’t know. But ‘Not you, Tom’ (thanks for nothing, buddy)”
The young African American questioner got this in response: “You’ve probably never heard of Fannie Mae.”
Huff Post reports that the guy laughed in response.
McCain either told another winner of a joke, doesn’t have a high opinion of his ad buy or doesn’t think a whole lot of the questioner’s interest or intelligence, despite the objective reality of being present a political debate.
Since I didn’t catch his charming sneer of a smile, the former seems less likely. Since he called O “that one” and has a hard time looking him in the eye, maybe other less flattering forces are at work. As a black man, it didn’t feel too good.
If through bitterness, fear, anger and McCain’s manifest contempt for Obama he and his dim star from the north manage to conjour up another Oswald or Lee, I wonder if McCain will flip a final time and, unlike his sad effort for MLK, vote him a holiday.
October 7th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
How can we be sure Barack Obama won’t choose Charlie Gibson to be Secretary of State? Why won’t he answer that question?
October 7th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
McCain was trying to be personable and witty. He kept making these dumb jokes that fell flat. What was with the hair plugs comment?
October 7th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Why didn’t “that one” deny that he was going to appoint Willian Ayres as the Secretary of Education, Jeremiah Wright as Secretary of Amerikkka Hatin’ and the Corpse of Miles Davis as Secretary of Bitches Brew?
Why? WHY???
October 7th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
“not you, Tom.”
It’s a tire swing joke, you wouldn’t understand.
October 7th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
A lot of older men have that tone-deaf sense of humor. You see it a lot. I think that as our brains start to shrivel when we age, the flexibility required for a good sense of humor is lost.
October 7th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
McCain’s in denial:
http://snipurl.com/461nt
He’s no superstar.
October 7th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Yeah, he made the hair plugs comment, and flubbed the obvious Joe Biden punchline. Don’t set it up if ye ain’t gonna knock it down.
October 7th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
As far as “that one” goes, old white guys shouldn’t be refering to young black guys by the inanimate object pronoun.
Its a little too close to “boy”.
October 7th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
That’s all we need. A snide president. He makes his VP choice look charming.
October 7th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Is it possible that McCain momentarily forgot Obama’s name?
October 7th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
“That one” isn’t so bad. My mom’s crazy racist octogenarian aunt (may she rest in peace) used to refer to members of our family as “what’s his/her face”. And these were people she knew well. Sometimes the elderly forget…
October 7th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
What a weird way of being an asshole that guy/man/senator has.
October 7th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
McCain should have said: “Oh man, gosh, that one.”
October 7th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
I think the one thing we learned tonight is that John McCain is not funny.
October 7th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=690
October 7th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
the Corpse of Miles Davis as Secretary of Bitches Brew?
Why won’t McCain admit that America needs a Secretary of Bitches Brew?
October 7th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Here is a video from John McCain’s comedy school:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT8uiT_rZ5k
October 8th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Someone really needs to make a faux-music video of that “That One” comment. Lay down a beat over it, possibly to the tune of “My Name Is” by Eminem. Rockin’!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Was McCain trying to refer to “the One” from the Matrix, which his ads had mocked?
October 8th, 2008 at 12:26 am
Samba00, damn you for beating me to it.
Joss Whedon should have so copyrighted “The One” years ago.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:33 am
McCain was really weird tonight. I thought he was creepy. There was a moment early in the debate when McCain approached the questioner awkwardly as if approaching an unfamiliar dog and the person sitting in front of the questioner pulled a face and leaned away from the slowly encroaching McCain. Another awkward moment occurred when Sen McCain could be seen in the background creeping over to Tom Brokaw during one of Obama’s answers. It looked like he was some sort of peeping Tom looking over Obama’s shoulder as he crossed the stage. It was a very bizarre performance.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:37 am
You know, some people compare McCain to Skeletor, but after tonight I think they are all wrong. He is much more like Man-at-Arms. Or Dr. Stranglove without the wheelchair.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:46 am
I’d also nominate McCain wandering around the background while Obama was speaking as the most SNL-worthy moment.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:59 am
DTM — really, is there any difference between McCain and Stockdale at this point?
October 8th, 2008 at 2:32 am
The ‘that one’ issue is really weak. If it survives until tomorrow, I’ll be surprised. McCain does have his racist tendencies, but I really don’t think he meant it that way. As for the hair plugs comment, I totally missed it. Must have been doing a bong hit. What was it?
October 8th, 2008 at 5:05 am
I thought the “not you, Tom” was something in the spirit of, “et tu, brute?”, but in regards to pressing him to go on the record with names… you know? Like, “Oh Tom, tell me you’re not going to try to make me commit to something the news will rake me over for tomorrow…”
I don’t know, it’s a hard one to explain, but I thought that’s what was going on.
Parsing the linguistic intentions in the top two on red ticket this year is really a challenge. Add that to the creative vocabulary and improvisational grammar of the last 8 years, and I think we may be seeing late stage verbal metastasis blooming from the culture of newspeak the GOP has riddled itself with.
October 8th, 2008 at 6:52 am
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October 8th, 2008 at 7:30 am
McCain’s weirdest moment
Telling the black guy in the audience:
“You’ve probably never heard of Fannie Mae.”
October 8th, 2008 at 7:55 am
Is it me, or does McCain in this clip sound, look and move exactly like Christian Slater in _Heathers_?
“Course, I was coming up here to kill ya…”
October 8th, 2008 at 7:56 am
I have a hard time believing this was anything other than the normal fumbling of words that happens when you’re speaking off the top of your head. If he had said, “Guess which candidate…” then the follow up “that one” would have made perfect sense. And he probably practiced it that way. But in the flow of things, his setup simply didn’t match the punch line. It’s nothing more than that.
October 8th, 2008 at 8:08 am
We want a president who depersonalizes his opponents with schoolboy sarcasm!
October 8th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Fostert, it’s the moment that fits most snugly into the media’s “McCain hates Obama” narrative, so it’s the moment that will get replayed.
McCain’s being a pretty unprecedented dick, so I think it’s entirely fair. Also, he made a point of looking at Obama a couple times, so he obviously is aware of the meme but unable to control his actions.
October 8th, 2008 at 10:38 am
“A lot of older men have that tone-deaf sense of humor.”
Yea, I thought it was awkward when McCain magically pulled a quarter from Obama’s ear.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Is it just me or does McCain tend to look fairly serious and presidential in pictures but kind of weird and creepy on video?
October 8th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Re: “Not you, Tom” – I suspect something like this might be going on : “Treasury Secretary? How about Phil Gra… I mean Carly Fio…. well, I don’t know. But ‘Not you, Tom’ (thanks for nothing, buddy)”
October 8th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
It’s really very simple: John McCain is a CREEP.
October 8th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
The young African American questioner got this in response: “You’ve probably never heard of Fannie Mae.”
Huff Post reports that the guy laughed in response.
McCain either told another winner of a joke, doesn’t have a high opinion of his ad buy or doesn’t think a whole lot of the questioner’s interest or intelligence, despite the objective reality of being present a political debate.
Since I didn’t catch his charming sneer of a smile, the former seems less likely. Since he called O “that one” and has a hard time looking him in the eye, maybe other less flattering forces are at work. As a black man, it didn’t feel too good.
If through bitterness, fear, anger and McCain’s manifest contempt for Obama he and his dim star from the north manage to conjour up another Oswald or Lee, I wonder if McCain will flip a final time and, unlike his sad effort for MLK, vote him a holiday.
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