Traficant was convicted of felony corruption and refused to resign from congress. He was expelled by the house. Traficant ran for election after being sent to prison. He did not win that election.
Bush was widely known to be a genocidal sociopath well before the 2004 presidential election. He nevertheless won. The U.S. electorate is quite capable of overlooking criminality in its government.
George, the election is a week away. The ballots have been printed; absentee votes have likely been cast. The Torricelli precedent you cite was apparently ruled on some time in September 2002 (Wikipedia links to the court ruling (PDF) which does not bear a date obvious to me as a lay reader but refers to October 1 as being in the future). September 2002 was darn close to the election (November 5, 2002), but was still long before voting had started.
I don’t doubt that Stevens was guilty of the crime for which he was charged, but this focus on such low level corruption (local contractors doing unpaid work for a politician) is as much a scam as the crime itself. As the real criminals escape with billions, our zealous prosecutors go after an old man with an ugly house and an ugly chair nobody would want anyway. This is absurd.
Warren: “Blah, I think now that a federal court has ruled that the chair was a gift and not a loan he is free to keep it.”
Immaterial. Stevens was required to disclose loans as well as gifts. When he admitted on the stand that the chair was a loan that he didn’t disclose, he incriminated himself.
So what about Noam Chomsky and his assertions in this sound byte? Chomsky suggests in his video, amonth other things, that there has never been any medical evidence for criminalizing marijuana.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Come on Matt, if you want to talk Congressmen and convictions, you’ve got to mention “The Spitting Lyon.”
October 27th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
I hope he enjoys his massage chair before he has to return it.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Can’t he just run against the lower 48 states and washington as always trying to tell the good folks of Alaska what to do?
October 27th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Traficant was convicted of felony corruption and refused to resign from congress. He was expelled by the house. Traficant ran for election after being sent to prison. He did not win that election.
Stevens will not will this election.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Sorry for the typo, I meant Stevens will not win his election against Begich.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Bush was widely known to be a genocidal sociopath well before the 2004 presidential election. He nevertheless won. The U.S. electorate is quite capable of overlooking criminality in its government.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
@#2
Blah, I think now that a federal court has ruled that the chair was a gift and not a loan he is free to keep it.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
I should probably go to LGM for this answer, but what are the prospects of a Toricelli/Lautenberg-style ballot switcheroo?
October 27th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
I oughtta kick you in the crotch.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Legal question: Did Senator Stevens declare these gifts on his income tax?
October 27th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
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I never get tired of that
October 27th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
George, the election is a week away. The ballots have been printed; absentee votes have likely been cast. The Torricelli precedent you cite was apparently ruled on some time in September 2002 (Wikipedia links to the court ruling (PDF) which does not bear a date obvious to me as a lay reader but refers to October 1 as being in the future). September 2002 was darn close to the election (November 5, 2002), but was still long before voting had started.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Oops, obviously I meant to reply to ark f and not to George, who asks an excellent but totally different question. Sorry.
October 27th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I don’t doubt that Stevens was guilty of the crime for which he was charged, but this focus on such low level corruption (local contractors doing unpaid work for a politician) is as much a scam as the crime itself. As the real criminals escape with billions, our zealous prosecutors go after an old man with an ugly house and an ugly chair nobody would want anyway. This is absurd.
October 27th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Warren: “Blah, I think now that a federal court has ruled that the chair was a gift and not a loan he is free to keep it.”
Immaterial. Stevens was required to disclose loans as well as gifts. When he admitted on the stand that the chair was a loan that he didn’t disclose, he incriminated himself.
October 27th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Grumpy, you got your facts and knowledge all over my snark.
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So what about Noam Chomsky and his assertions in this sound byte? Chomsky suggests in his video, amonth other things, that there has never been any medical evidence for criminalizing marijuana.