Oct 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 pm
CBS Instapoll
In my inbox:
Biden 46%
Palin: 21%
Tie: 33%
I keep seeing conservative commentators on TV calling this a triumph for Palin based on emails they’re getting on the blackberries from other conservatives. But the name of the game is to reach beyond that twentysomething percent of the public that likes George Bush.
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October 2nd, 2008 at 11:04 pm
As you always do with debate nights, too many threads Matt.
I hope SNL does a skit on her non-answers. My suggestion:
“OK Governor, here’s an easy one. What’s your favorite color?”
“Soup.”
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:04 pm
“You can bet your boots that soup is a color.”
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 pm
She sounded normal coherent and as intelligent as anyone else. That means she won. I caught only two real missteps–talking about people at softball games having stock investments, when she should have said bank accounts or 401(k)s (yes, those are stock investments, but it’s all how you say it), and her neocon doctrine of the vice presidency–and most people won’t catch the fact that she renounced the core conservative view of the Constitution when she talked about flexibility.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Republicans need this so bad, and their bar for Palin is so low, of course they are going to call it a victory.
I think on the deep emotional level, though, to one evaluating these as potential candidates, not for high school president, but for U.S. President, the gravitas scales drop definitively towards Biden.
She didn’t flail; but she didn’t win.
And boy, she doesn’t want to talk about the past, does she? Be it the Bush administration or the cause for global warming, she’s all about just looking ahead. What’s that great quote? “Don’t look back . . . it might be gaining on you.”
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Doesn’t the Obama campaign blast out text messages at the end of debates saying to text vote for their guy so they can win the Instapolls?
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 pm
I am a woman, I think Palin looked hesearsed and desperate to say what she was thought before she forgot them…
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 pm
“based on emails they’re getting on the blackberries from other conservatives.”
You know, it’s likely that the very same phenomenon is happening to you, except with liberals.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
In media-filter world, which is looking at it disinterestedly, like a boxing match, it was a draw. In reality, for people looking for reasons to vote for a ticket, and who are unsure if they should pin their hopes on Obama or McCain, it was a disaster for the McCain ticket. She gave no coherent reason to reject Obama or to vote for McCain; she was unable to defend her candidate, and Biden picked away at him all night. People will be surprised by the polls again . . .
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
I have never received such a text.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Sailer, you’re a moron.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:12 pm
CNN poll has Biden winning 54% to 39%.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:13 pm
make that 51% to 39%.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:14 pm
5. Steve Sailer
NOPE
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Steve Sailer, what would such a text even instruct? Pray to the statistics god you’re one of the 0.000167% of the population (for a sample size 500 poll) to be called? Think, man.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:18 pm
at best, she stopped the rot and mccain stabilizes here, trailing, without momentum, and having to work hard just to hold the line against the candidate with more money.
more likely, the rot slows down but doesn’t stop: what undecided voter concluded tonight that mccain-palin offers the promise of a better america?
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:19 pm
I don’t know, I’m an Obama partisan but I though Palin was really awful. She looked like an eager student trying to recite all the answers correctly. She had a weird way of abusing conjunctions when she wanted to switch the subject from whatever Ifill was lamely tring to ask her about to the next talking point on her list. It also seemed as if she ran of talking points about two-thirds of the way through and started recycling.
But who knows how “independent” voters perceived. She did manage to avoid major gaffes by simply ignoring most of the questions, so maybe that’s a win. Take that, filter!
Overall, it was a pretty strange dynamic, with Palin mostly ignoring Ifill, and Biden mostly ignoring Palin (except to defend attacks on Obama).
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 pm
I don’t know who won but I think Ifill lost… Sad, ’cause she does have it in her to push followups, but the McCain machine seems to have intimidated her.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:27 pm
I’m with Dialectic of Entitlement–ignoring all the largely irrelevant “was she as awful as we hoped/feared” nonsense, the question is who did the best job building up their candidate and tearing down the other candidate. And Biden easily did the far better job by that standard.
Incidentally, I watched on CNN, and every single time she mentioned the word “maverick” the dials turned down.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:27 pm
I think Sarah Palin did a great job, it was not so evident for her, She has sense about dangers in the world, she knows clearly what we should do and what we shouldn t do, whereas biden was allways trying to expose a different reality, as if all what happens is not what actually happens, despite alqaida, despite talibans, despite bombing everywhere in Irak and everyday, I feel palin has better sense about international issues, Biden is blind to the reality in Irak, he looks like he s stuck in last century. Palin looks fired up and ready to take the lead. One thing i think is that she should have spoken about her, about what SHE would do for the americans, instead of allways going McCain this McCain that …
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:28 pm
See, it will be called a win for Palin by the GOP becuase she didn’t dig a deeper hole….SO WHAT!?!?!
I’m scared, how in the world can people be ok with a canidate that thinks the power of the VP should be expanded? I’m not trying to sound like a nutjob about the way government works, but if the current VP won’t answer questions or provide emails becuase “he’s not part of the executive branch”, what would she do if (god forbid) she was elected?
Biden had a slow start, no doubt about it, however, had I been in his shoes, I think he was gauging from the start how she was going to go and didn’t slam into immediately. However, you saw him catch his stride when it shifted to one of his true strengths. I head more than talking points from him, how many times did you hear maverick from Palin? Also, how is the someone who made close to $250,000 last year, a middle class family like everyone else? Palin, your not like everyone else, your were a beauty peagant contestant, went to multiple colleges, and govenor of state. Get real.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Steve Sailer, what would such a text even instruct? Pray to the statistics god you’re one of the 0.000167% of the population (for a sample size 500 poll) to be called? Think, man.
I get WAY too many text messages from Obama, Biden, etc.. never got that one. The way you wind up getting those is being an Obama volunteer, and who the hell needs instruction on how to vote in a poll from the campaign. If you volunteer for Obama, Biden could have started doing poppers and raped the podium and you are still gonna say he won anyway.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Doesn’t the Obama campaign blast out text messages at the end of debates saying to text vote for their guy so they can win the Instapolls?
I think you’re thinking of American Idol, or you have the IQ of a ferret, or both.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Bill:
I have to agree with you..of course I think we all need..ya know..I have issues however with how, the people who we are, need not….how do I say it…..make me look bad for my syntax and grammer and spelling.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:33 pm
By the way, I also agree that her talking about expanding the power of the VP is one of those things that is going to prove costly the more people think about it. And Biden just killed her by bringing up Cheney.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:39 pm
I have to agree with you..of course I think we all need..ya know..I have issues however with how, the people who we are, need not….how do I say it…..make me look bad for my syntax and grammer and spelling.
I don’t agree with him, I think he’s a risible idiot but my guess is English is his second language with Spanish being his first with the spelling of Iraq.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:45 pm
lol Marshall, true, but u can t deny he looks like he s stuck in last century, whereas she looks like she is aware, she knows the reality better than he does, she focused on the dangers we are facing in today s world. I think obama/biden dont have a real imigration policy that can handle ppl from all over the world coming in the usa in case of election, that may be a problem, imigration policy and national security .
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Ed:
I was mimicking Sarah Palin from my interpretation that Bill was joking about Palin’s responses. Regardless, I do not agree with Bill’s comment if it was not an attempt at….cari…..mocking Palin.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:50 pm
She sounded normal coherent and as intelligent as anyone else.
That is a misjudgement possible only if one does not know what a coherent or intelligent presentation sounds like.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:50 pm
So Palin won with anti-immigration, speak English-as-a-second-language, Spanish speaking vote. Real game changer going on here.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:54 pm
By the way i m french, bonjour, i think McCain is a friend of Obama and is far more intelligent than anyone imagine, they decided together to elect Obama, that s why McCain picked such a lose vp, the ones in trouble are the ones at gouvernment, the only way for mc Cain to get rid of his own parti ennemies was to do the job for obama. Obama already knows what mission john will have in a few days …
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:59 pm
I second everything Bill just said.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 am
Bush is actually spending big amounts of cash for crisis, but he is just preparing his own future, all this money go through the machine that he has built, just wondering, how come war bills have been the greatest of past 7 years these recent days ??
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:10 am
This isclearly a east coast elite problem. We who are in middle America because we are all moms (you in the east coast have no moms – you are just elites!) know that soup is a color and it is a great American color as opposed to the french colors you elites like. if you want further proof Ronald Reagan believed in American elitism, the shining city on the hill.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:24 am
8 Millions african americans are not registered to vote, if you consider 50 millions african americans in usa, around 30 millions old enough to vote, it is one third of african americans that will not participate to the vote !
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:07 am
I think Sarah Palin did a great job, it was not so evident for her, She has sense about dangers in the world, she knows clearly what we should do and what we shouldn t do, whereas biden was allways trying to expose a different reality, as if all what happens is not what actually happens, despite alqaida, despite talibans, despite bombing everywhere in Irak and everyday, I feel palin has better sense about international issues, Biden is blind to the reality in Irak, he looks like he s stuck in last century.
Nice to see Palin’s debate coach drop by for a visit.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:18 am
U know what BUsh is hated in europe, is hated in asia, is hated in south america, Im french and i have lived in utah for one year in 1992, i brought you clinton by the way, all the ppl around me that ever went to your country would never go to the usa for vacation because of bush ! Imagine what s going to happen, we can t wait to see obama elected and come back visit you, if you elect Obama you are to be prepared to welcome many many visitors …
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:23 am
Thank you, Bill. I think you are perfectly representing those folks that thought Sarah Palin won the debate. Those huffing ether, who had a few hits of mescaline beforehand. Watch out for the bats.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:37 am
“OK Governor, here’s an easy one. What’s your favorite color?”
“All of ‘em. Any of ‘em. Whatever they put in front of me.”
October 3rd, 2008 at 2:35 am
a triumph for Palin based on emails they’re getting on the blackberries
It only makes sense for such gleeful communication. It’s a miracle made possible by John McCain.
October 3rd, 2008 at 6:54 am
By the way, I’ve been looking at a few clips of Palin’s answers this morning, and I think the idea that she outperformed her Couric interviews is a bit premature. The more often you see her answers repeated, the less you pay attention to what you know she is trying to say, and the more apparent the actual word salad she is offering up becomes.
October 3rd, 2008 at 8:35 am
Bill,
I don’t have any particular fondness for McCain, other than the fact that they are on the right side of the life issue (which is an important one).
But the idea that we should decide our vote based on what some other countries think is absurd.
McCain and Obama aren’t running to be president of France, they are running to be president of the United States.
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April 16th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Hello everyone. It is never too late to give up our prejudices.
I am from Cape and learning to speak English, give true I wrote the following sentence: “More only this month, discounts up to.”
Thank you so much for your future answers
. Desi.