Duberstein for Obama
Via Tim Fernholtz, a Newsweek article from 2000:
About two years ago McCain began talking to Ken Duberstein, Reagan’s last White House chief of staff and a close friend of Gen. Colin Powell’s. McCain wanted to know: was Powell thinking of running? Left unstated was the reality that there wasn’t room for two American heroes in the presidential race. Duberstein assured McCain that Powell would stay out of the campaign, and the two men began talking about “upping McCain’s profile,” says Duberstein. McCain, who had a book coming out about his own military career, had watched with fascination as Powell ran a book tour in 1995 that resembled a coronation parade. “How did Colin do it?” McCain wanted to know. The senator also quizzed Duberstein about President Reagan. How had the Gipper won over so many Democrats as well as Republicans? Duberstein offered contacts (his corporate clients include Goldman Sachs and General Motors) as well as sage advice. He began to quietly expose McCain to corporate bigwigs (and potential campaign donors), hosting a breakfast for 25 business leaders with Henry Kissinger in New York that December.
Today, Duberstein
Former Reagan chief of staff Ken Duberstein told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria this week he intends to vote for Democrat Barack Obama on Tuesday. [...] Duberstein spoke with Zakaria about his final days in the Reagan White House. The Reagan official, along with Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and Carter National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski, also discussed the transition process to a new administration.
On some level, I sort of regret seeing people like this hop onto the Obama bandwagon. Realistically, at some point the Republicans are going to come back into power and I’d prefer that to be a less-crazy version of the GOP. That’s going to require less-crazy people, people like Duberstein, to exert some influence and have some credibility.
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October 31st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
well, yes, but “having some credibility” may depend on one’s not having voted for mccain/palin.
October 31st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
The man’s helmet-hair, two chins and large aviator-frames combine to create a visually pleasing composition of curves and ellipses. It is like Cubism, only rounder.
October 31st, 2008 at 3:35 pm
A tip of the Hatlo Hat to James Gary. Funny stuff.
October 31st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
We’re definitely going to need sane Republicans.
But the way things are going right now, I figure they’re going to have to come out of the next generation. The GOP seems determined to double down on crazy.
October 31st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
It is unrealistic to assume that the Republicans will ever regain power. The demographic trends are against it happening. What is more likely is that the U.S. will become a one party state such as cities like DC or Chicago or even states like Maryland.
October 31st, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Don’t worry, they’ll all hop right back off when they remember he’s a Democrat who wants to enact Democratic policies. Then we get all the stories of how Barack tacked too far left and how the Republicans learned something or other in time for the 2010 cluster-intercourse.
http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
October 31st, 2008 at 4:15 pm
The Republicans may not regain power (but who knows), but it is unlikely that will usher in a new “Era of Good Feelings” when a single party exists. If anything, fights within the Democrats will be heightened, and a split will follow (as has happened in the past). The end result will probably be along the lines of what we have now, a party called the “Democrats” and another one (which might or might not be called the “Republicans”). A less ideological version (of each) would probably be welcomed by the general public. The activists of each side would deplore such a party, but it would be fine with the public. A sane Republican party is desirable, but seems less likely given current trends.
October 31st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Is he wearing a Spider Man tie?
October 31st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
“It is unrealistic to assume that the Republicans will ever regain power.”
In a sane country, there’d be four parties: the party of Inhofe, the party of Hagel, the party of Webb, and the party of Sanders. But this is not a sane country, so it turns into the lunatics and everyone else. It’ll be interesting to see when the sane Republicans realize if they keep the lunatics in their party that given the tide of demographic changes they will in fact never regain power, and what happens then.
October 31st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
There’s someinteresting background to this endorsement.
Duberstein has been a “political adviser” to former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, according to syndicated columnist Robert Novak, who says Duberstein was a source for David Corn’s and Michael Isikoff’s book about the Valerie Plame affair in which Armitage was found to be the one who leaked Plame’s CIA status to Novak. [1]
In an interview with CNN’s Fareed Zakaria to be aired November 2, 2008, Duberstein announced his support of Democratic candidate Barack Obama for president.[2] This came as no surprise given Duberstein’s close personal relationship with Colin Powell, another Republican who was distrusted by conservatives and had endorsed Obama 2 weeks earlier
Apparently it has little to do with conservative credentials. That bunch knows it won’t have much pull with a GOP administration, given how they sat on information about Armitage and Plame while Libby and others twisted in the wind.
It’s more of a suck up than an endorsement.
October 31st, 2008 at 7:27 pm
I don’t think these guys are so much jumping on the Obama bandwagon as they are bailing on McCains. If something were to happen and Palin became president they need to be able to lay the blame elsewhere.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:35 pm
A Republican party headed by Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber is not something to worry too much about.
A Republican party in which Bill Kristol is the Machiavelli is every Democrat’s dream come true.
November 1st, 2008 at 3:00 am
There is another way to look at the Rebubs who jump ship. Instead of bemoaning the loss of weight and brains from that party, why couldn’t Powell, Brooks, Sullivan, etc., become the nucleas of a new, smarter right-of-center party?
There has to be a break coming within the Ghastly Old Party. The smart guys who voted for Obama and/or against Palin, vs. the dumb guys—everyone else. I can’t see the smart wing holding their tongues and letting the group that flushed the party down the toilet do it again without a fight.
The new party would respect the rights we hold dear, be pro environment and not beholding to religion. The old rightists would be cast out into the cold, a place they occupied for years after FDR. As the country evolves, they would eventually die out.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:03 am
“There has to be a break coming within the Ghastly Old Party. The smart guys who voted for Obama and/or against Palin, vs. the dumb guys—everyone else. ”
I would not consider elements of the GOP “smart” because they voted for Obama. This is what Yglesias is talking about. It would be much more refreshing (and smart) for anti-McCain/Palin conservatives to be sitting out this election, or voting for an alternate candidate.
I will assume that an Obama-Pelosi-Reid triumverate with a fillibuster-proof majority will pass some very anit-conservative legislation (eg. Freedom of Choice act). If that happens, the non-Democrats who voted for Obama – and tangentially all of the Democrats that win House and Senate seats on his momentum – will be blamed for said anti-conservative policy. Not sure the GOP will be waiting for them with open arms.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:17 am
Someone should check the seismic activity in the Simi Valley between now and election day because Ronald Reagan must be rolling over in his grave over the antics of the McCain Campaign.
I am a registered Republican who has received extensive campaign training from the national committee. I am ProObama, ProLife. I’m not sure how much longer I can remain registered in a party run amok by the likes of Sarah Palin, Joe-the-Plumber and the other uneducated members of the radical right.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:25 am
This is typical in world politics: the rise and fall of a political party. A newly energized party topples the corrupt, entropic ruling party. They bring fresh ideas and exciting leadership. They enact the reforms they’ve longed for and then settle in to rule. Over time, they make a few bad decisions, and become used to power. Their moribund opponents spend time in the political wilderness, and are unable to capitalize on their mistakes. The ousted party goes through years of navel-gazing and purges until they finally settle on a leader and ideology that appeals to the country again.
Eventually, corruption sets in and the ruling party’s ideas become stale and bankrupt. They stay in power until their rivals get their act together and emerge from the wilderness energized with a charismatic leader full of new ideas and eager for reform. The corrupt ruling party falls and the cycle begins again.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:32 am
I think we have to broaden our perspective here. Look at how many years the Republicans have spun gold out of the notion of Reagan Democrats. Is the new identity of the democratic party predicated on those defectors coming back? Nope. It’s new blood, a new generation, a new zeitgeist. The Republican’s haven’t even started to experience the long lonely night that awaits them. The Powell’s and Duberstein’s of the world will have less and less relevance or influence in the GOP. Not to say they won’t try to inject sanity. Someone has to try to keep the GOP from turning into nothing more than a White Nationalist party. But those efforts will turn out to be little more than pissing into the wind. I’m a conservative voting for Obama, see why.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:03 am
personally, i hope the g.o.p. keeps going in the same direction. reagan, bush 1, and to some extent, bush 2 gave the party unwarranted cover (for instance, bush 2 declined to condemn all islam as an evil demonism when it was becoming all the rage among the jesus jammers). but, with palin-mccain, you really see what you are getting. domestic policy tailored by james dobson and pat robertson, foreign policy by the christian zionists, and economic policy as desired by grover norquist. its like a drug addict who denies the reality of what he is doing to himself. at some point he decides “enough” and swears off altogether, or he ends up in the morgue. in a way, it might be better for this country to elect palin-mccain. if nothing else would put us in the gutter that would. if this country lacks the character to deal with it at that point, then to hell with it anyway.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:09 am
Per this poll from Marc, those who still identify as Republican think, by narrow majorities, that the party needs to be farther right and that Palin is totally awesome. The electorate at large, by comfortable margin, thinks the opposite.
While I’d hoped the party would use its 8 years in the wilderness to purge the wingnuts and return to something like Eisenhour–well, there’s a reason the young Eisenhours endorsed Obama. Evidently the Eisenhours, Welds, Powells, Hagels, and Dubersteins are to be purged to make room for a party that looks like Palin. The good news is that perhaps the know-nothings can take a tiny Republican party and the exiled moderates can forge a new party to counter the Democrats. But right now, they seem to be embracing “either you’re proudly ignorant, or you’re out.”
November 1st, 2008 at 11:14 am
I think it is very unlikely that a new party will rise up and take the place of the Republican party. There are just too many institutional hurdles out there to prevent that from happening. Whether they like it or not, if the Republicans want to deter the Democratic party at any point in the future, they are going to have to reinvent themselves.
But that is party, not political group. And even if the Republican party does manage to reinvent itself, I don’t think that is going to happen anytime soon.
The Republican party seized and kept power by its leadership pandering to the worst America has to offer. And for years it worked, because the leadership was able to keep these anti-science, anti-tolerant zealots from taking real power. But it wasn’t going to last forever, and — sure enough — the True Believers have now seized the reins of power in the Republican party. And the Republican leadership is shocked, shocked! that this could have happened. And it is dismayed, dismayed! at the state of the party.
And now the True Believers who run the party are, in fact, going to “double down on crazy.” Personally, I think that is great.
Y’see, I think that it is asking too much to expect we can expunge Crazy from American society. Crazy is going to be with us always, and Crazy needs a place to go. If the Republican party is willing to give Crazy a home, then let Crazy go there. Let the Republican party become a regional rump party based in the South (where I am, alas) that can draw other Crazy to it but that will be looked upon askance by the rest of the polity and that will have no opportunity to wield real power.
Let the Republican party become that table in the cafeteria where the crazy, violent kids who rode the short bus sat; we can see where they are, they can yell and fling food at each other, but we can keep our eye on ‘em and get on with the rest of our lives.
P.S. Don’t get me wrong. I’d love it if the Republican party could somehow come back to the Reality Based Community. I loved this post, years back, from the Kung Fu Monkey: http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2004/12/i-miss-republicans.html. I just don’t see it happening anytime real soon.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:20 am
There hasn’t been an intellectual defection like this since the people who became the neoconservatives left the Democratic Party in the late 1970s. I think it is a seismic event.
The Decent Right (though many will object to that term as a contraadiction in terms, I do not) is leaving the party of Palin in digust. The list of Obamacons is amazing: Colin Powell, Ken Duberstein (!), Andrew Sullivan, Christopher Buckley, Christopher Hitchens, the grandchildren of Barry Goldwater (!), David Brooks (!), George Will (!), Charles Matthias and TWO other Republican ex-Senators…
For his part, Obama has resisted attacking conservatism as a movement–he resisted it on the Rachel Maddow Show on Thusday when Move-On Rachel tried to get him to say nasty things and he put her down: “That’s just the kind of politics I want to avoid.” (Similarly with his essentially positive remarks about Reagan during the winter.)
Obama may be outright lying here, or playing political games; he may be far more ideological (ideologically left) than he is saying. But his reproving response to Rachel was striking. What he now has is not only the left and the liberals, but a large part of the center (the middle class), and now a good part of the intellectual and moderate Right.
He could still lose, McCain could pull some dirty trick, racism could turn out to be a much larger factor than people suppose. But as things stand today, this is a pretty amazing achievement.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:36 am
I’m with those who foresee the demise of the Republicans and a split in the Democrats into ‘center-right’ and ‘center-left’ parties. The trouble with an election like this is that, for the Republicans, it actively favors the crazies. Look at the Senate as the best and easiest example. If a ‘moderate’ Republican has been elected, this year, in almost every case, voters are preferring to pick a Democrat. (See Coleman, Smith, Sununu etc. The only exception is Collins, but the Republican party can’t live on Maine alone.) But if a state has been willing to accept an Inhofe, a Cornyn, or an Enzi, they’ll keep him in office against a Democrat — unless he gets convicted, like Stevens, or makes a fool of herself like Dole (or, in the House, Bachmann).
And of the Republicans I may disagree with on many issues, but respect as reasonably honorable and sane men — Grassley, Cochran, Lugar (the best Republican Senator over the past couple of decades), or Specter — they are all in their late 70s or so.
If you look at ‘538.com’s predictions, other than Collins and Cochran, the only (relatively) non-crazy Republican heading for reelection is Lamar Alexander.
I don’t have a good source for the various House races, but again, it isn’t the crazies that lose (except for Bachmann and maybe Sali), but the moderates, who either get bumped in primaries or get defeated by Democrats. The Larry “Ten Commandments” MacDonalds and the Steve Kings *shudder* fit their districts and keep coming back.
And there are NO National Republican figures that are even slightly moderate. When we see the idiocy of McCain, we forget that he was — and still is -
- less awful than the competitors he defeated, “Empty Suit” Romney, Giuliani, Hunter, Huckabee (the best of the rest, but ‘good heart — no brains’), Tancredo and Paul. (I’m forgetting someone but the flu is making me not at my best.)
And now we hear talk of the choice in 2012 being between Romney and Palin. So, unless the Republicans produce an influx of new, centrist candidates that can take over the Party — like the 1946 ‘returning soldier’ group — we are stuck with a party becoming less and less relevant and eventually disappearing — leading to a split in the Democrats.
As my favorite tv commentator says “Can anyone ‘talk me down’ on this?”
November 1st, 2008 at 11:50 am
Obama, bless him, remembers something far too many Americans have forgotten: bitter hatred and fear between factions bring on the death of republics and democracies.
While the Republicans and Democrats have both been guilty of fear-mongering to some extent, there have been thoughtful people on both sides who always refused to stir up hatred. Rove and the Bushites took fear-mongering to a new level, and made it the core of the party’s strategy.
John McCain was thought to be a truly honorable man, one of those who refused hatred and fear, who respected his opponents as fellow Americans. For many good conservative Republicans, he was the hope of pulling the party back from dangerous Rovian hate-mongering. Instead, he embraced it.
The tide of conservatives endorsing Obama is not a flood of cynicism, but the despairing recognition that the Republican party leadership is thoroughly tainted with Rovian evil. If John McCain could not stand against it, who? The Obamacons are embracing hope, putting aside their cynicism. More power to them!
Obama runs on the platform of closing the divide, of working together as one country. Nearly all the Obamacons cling to the hope that this is more than rhetoric (as do almost all of us who hope for a healthy republic). It is also recognition of how deeply the Rovian taint has sunk into the Republican party. They deserve our applause, not cynicism. Yes, they will go into opposition again, but that is cause for cheer, too. Every government needs a decent opposition to keep it honest, so that voters have a better choice that corruption or dictatorship.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:58 am
I think there will be a big split in the Republican Party after this election. The two biggest names will be Paylin and Huckabee, both are from the extreme religious right. But they do not appease the intellectual side of conservatives that are supporting Obama. These people have been the conservative party for decades but in there recruitment of the religious right they created a, well as David Brooks said a “Cancer” on their party. It will be interesting to watch the outcome. Perhaps a new 3rd party?
November 1st, 2008 at 12:03 pm
If the Republicans become the “crazy wing” then the Party may never come back into power as such. Let’s call the crazies what they are: the “New Know-Nothings.” Then maybe the elder statesmen of the Republican leadership can begin to rebuild the party of Lincoln (with room for some Whigs while you are at it). McCain probably could have done it if he hadn’t selected the biggest “Know-Nothing” of them all as his running mate. What a shame.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:34 pm
I agree completely with tdaulnay on what keeps republics and democracies healthy, and on what destroys the comity and trust necessary to preserver them, and agree as well that both Obama and the Obamacons deserve to be saluted for displaying a higher patriotism rather than succombing to faction and hatred.
In support of tdaulnay’s comments, and at the risk of sounding professorial, folks might want to take a look at what Thucydides wrote 2,500 years ago about “bitter hatred and fear between factions bringing on the death of republics and democracies”: Book 3, Chapters 82-84, on the increasingly terrible factional infighting on Corcyra in 427 B.C..
Add to my list of Obamacons such stunners as Sen. Richard Lugar (sort of), Susan Eisenhower, Charles Fried (!), Ken Adelman (!), Douglas Kmiec, Jeffrey Hart (!–who counts himself now as a member of what he’s calling “the new American majority”: well, let’s hope so), Michael Smerconish, Larry Pressler (Republican ex-senator), William Weld and Arne Carleson (Republican ex-governors).
Some of the Obamacons may be a bit cynical (Ken Duberstein, after all, is a major lobbyist and will want an entree in the new administration), but I also agree that given the flak they are going to get from the crazies, they are primarily motivated by the better angels of their nature. In fact, Duberstein’s comments on the choosing of Palin were devastating, and he didn’t have to go as far as he did. Looks pretty sincere to me.
November 1st, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Republicans who love their party will have to fight for it. Ken Duberstein hasn’t announced that he’s becoming a registered Democrat, just that he’s voting for Obama. The same is true for most (all?) prominant Obamacons.
These reasonable conservatives gave up the party (without a fight) to the extremists christian right and it was a winning formula for them. It isn’t any more.
John McCain delivered a complete and thorough thrashing to more fiscally and socially conservative Republicans than himself and then listened to the threats of people like Ann Coulter and Karl Rove, moving too far to the right with his VP selection and the tone of his campaign.
The reasonable Republicans haven’t left the party (yet). But you and they will have to stand up for reasonable republicanism if you want to stay viable.
November 1st, 2008 at 1:44 pm
To expand on my point above, can anyone tell me — since I haven’t been following the House races closely — of any cases where either an incumbent Republican was defeated in a primary by a ‘better’ one; i.e., one less Conservative, more sane, or less beholden to the Religious Right
or, where a retiring Republican incumbent was replaced by a ‘better’ (as above) candidate.
I imagine it must have happened but I don’t know of any examples. Does anyone?
November 1st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
What percentage of Catholics voted for Kennedy in 60, and how many of those Catholics voted for Reagan again in 80,84.
How many african americans and hispanics are voting for Obama this year? Obama is the apex of the Democratic movement of the last 30-40 years. Obama got a gazillion dollars not from a the children of Rockefeller republicans who see him as their ideal candidate. Meanwhile union membership is way down and the Democratic party has a new power structure. There is a future for the Republican party and it will be in all things the Democrats come up short in over the next generation. The party that wins is the one that can keep it constituents from conflicting. The Dems are doing that now but it won’t go on forever. The republicans misfortunes right now will provide opportunities down the road. The dems misfortunes over the last generation allowed someone like Obama come around and breathe new life into the party.
November 1st, 2008 at 3:55 pm
It’s a mistake to suppose that thoughtful Republicans who support Obama have stopped being Republicans. They haven’t, and as a life-long Democrat, I say they shouldn’t. For the two-party system to function, we need two parties. But the differences between candidates of the two parties should reflect differences in personal character and nuances of ideologies and philosophies. The hijacking of one party or the other by radical special interests is the ruin of democracy and engenders the fear and hatred against which Thucydides warned.
Ever since Richard Nixon and his heirs (that includes Reagan who began his campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi, the City of Brotherly Hate) chose to embrace the nonsense of flat-earth theocrats, the Republican party has headed in a bee-line toward its own destruction. Good riddance to all that.
For all of my adult life, it was against the interests of the greater good to vote for local and Senatoral Republicans, even when I thought the Republican was the better candidate (Dick Zimmer v. Bob Torricelli comes to mind) because a vote for the Republican was a vote for wing-nuts on the Supreme Court (Crazy Nino!) and antediluvian legislation (Flag-burning! Kill the ERA! Rape the environmnt! Defend “traditional” marriage!).
This polarization between the set of normal-people-who-differ and the set of delusional-and/or-racist-crackpots was much less true in the days of, say, Eisenhower, and it is much less true in the minds of, say, Charlie Crist & Christie Todd Whitman. Moderate Republicans must reassert themselves (as Whitman has attempted to do, BTW) and reject the nuts — let the disaffected have their own party or go back to not voting, which was their wont in days of yore.
If Huckabee and Palin are “the future of the Republican party,” it is a party that has no future except as a center for cranky, crazy people — sort of like the Alaska Independence party, I guess.
I look forward to the day when I have the choice to vote for a Congressional Republican.
In the meantime, I’m working on RealityChex.com at http://www.realitychex.com which is currently unashamedly Probama and will stay that way until reasoning Republicans unite behind sensible progressive candidates.
November 1st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
The deck is now thoroughly stacked against Republicans who aren’t in the theocratic-populist wing. The remaining GOP members of Congress, with a handful of exceptions, are far rightists, and wingnuts control the party machinery of most GOP-leaning states. Moderate Republicans won’t survive primaries or caucuses in most of the places where they might have a chance of getting elected.
This won’t be reversed until moderate conservatives mobilize at the county and district levels of the GOP — i.e., until you see busloads of corporate managers and soccer moms turning out to fight busloads of evangelicals in caucuses and conventions. That’s awfully hard to envision.
November 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Cubism only rounder? Spiderman tie? My friends, this is why I am and will always be a Democrat!
A Hearty Handshake and Huzzah to James Gary and Another Greg
November 1st, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Just to echo: the same reasoning should make us less sanguine at the prospect of a candidacy of the Palin sort. In 1976-80 Democrats looked forward to the prospect of running against Reagan, who was deemed too implausible to win. But even dubious candidates can win in bad economic & international environments, as he did. We now look to be in for an even harder time of it, and whoever the Republicans nominate may do well, esp. if he or she is adept at cultivating populist resentment.
To paraphrase Noah Cross, at the right time and the right place, the electorate is capable of… anything. Better to wish what after all remains a major political party, if not success, at least sanity.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:02 am
@BeachSaint: So I’m not the only one…
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:57 am
Electoral wipeouts have a way of focusing the mind. Look for the GOP’s version of the DLC, with all these defectors signing on, to pull the party back to a more popular position, starting Wednesday.
November 2nd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
The republican party has become the crazy train.It jumped the track when mccain picked sarah “the grifter”.Now all thats left are rabid gossip queens who believe any and every vile disgusting rumor imagined by the evil bed wetters that control the party.
November 3rd, 2008 at 9:55 am
I think if the paleocons start their own party now, they may be in position to nominate a contender in 2016 and seduce some Blue Dogs (the same way an earlier generation of Republicans benefited from alliance with the Boll Weevils). But if they keep wrestling the dominionists for control of the Republican Party they’ll probably keep losing. If McCain didn’t go back to classic Republican principles, what chance Palin or Huckabee will?
If they’re really the hardheaded pragmatists they bill themselves as, they’ll see this. Starting a third party is hard, yes, but they’re the party of the rich and corporations, which brings a lot of advantages, and they’re also the party of restrained government (or at least claim to be), which taps into the resentment of anyone aggrieved by any government action ever, and everyone convinced that they are self-made men who never got a government handout (because roads, plumbing, etc. don’t count somehow).
As an alternative, they could take over an existing third party. Many of these positions aren’t far from what the Libertarian Party is already saying; they just don’t have the money and media connections to be taken seriously. Paleocons could change that, if they did it together with organization.
Of course, they need someone more sensible-seeming than Ross Perot. You can’t make radical change if you come across as a radical. Calmness and reassurance worked for Reagan, they seem to be working for Obama, and any potential conservative phoenix would need them too.
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