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September 24th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Well, that and the travel Webber took after he got the inbounds pass.
September 24th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Sully reports on the the folks at NRO
K-Lo at NRO
That’s just not crazy, that’s Petey crazy.
September 24th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
uggh…poor CWeb. At least Michigan had a very good team with just one veryunfortunate mistake, unlike team McCain, which basically just sucks.
September 24th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Et tu, Matt? For 15 years I’ve tried to avoid seeing that awful moment in Michigan basketball history (which, by the way, never happened according to the University) and am subjected to it here of all places?
Michigan’s basketball team has sucked for 15 years, our football team is down the toilet, the country is in the biggest mistake of a war since Vietnam, our economy is going to hell, and we might have a moose hunter with lipstick as our next president. Vicodin, anyone?
September 24th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
My mind immediately went to the same place as Matthew’s.
A well-played cheap shot.
September 24th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
“Michigan’s basketball team has sucked for 15 years, our football team is down the toilet, the country is in the biggest mistake of a war since Vietnam, our economy is going to hell, and we might have a moose hunter with lipstick as our next president. Vicodin, anyone?”
Fuck Vicodin. You need to be exploring the world of Xanax.
September 24th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
“My mind immediately went to the same place as Matthew’s. A well-played cheap shot.”
Beyond that, of course, it’s actually a smart if high-risk strategy for Team Sedona.
Unlike Webber’s time-out, this one is correct strategery.
Team Sedona loses this race if they don’t live inside Team Chicago’s OODA loop. Chicago’s core weakness is a lack of nimbleness. If I were Sedona, I’d rather lose this race by over-exploiting that weakness than under-exploiting it. Make Chicago make decisions.
September 24th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Like I said that’s just not crazy, that’s Petey crazy.
September 24th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Petey, did you just quote yourself? Also, can you call in that script for me?
September 24th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
rour football team is down the toilet
At least you still have the cool unis.
September 24th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
In my mind I’m going to Carolina. Takes me back to my crappy Carrboro apartment watching this play out live. Thanks, Matt.
September 24th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
“Like I said that’s just not crazy, that’s Petey crazy.”
It was a good trick of a Petey conjuring.
You smelled the combination of hoops and crazy strategery and you knew I was there.
September 24th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Ok Matt…I was just loving this day and everything about it. Laughing, feeling good about being a liberal, calling my republican friends and just laughing and than hanging up. Up, a pretty good day.
But noooo…you have to bring back to earth Matt. You just HAD to post the worst time-out in the history of time-outs! You just had to remind me on this best of days what joy was stolen from me all because Webb couldn’t count.
Capre f#@king diem to you too Matt!
September 24th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Chris Webber may indeed be the greatest player of all time who wasn’t a great player.
September 24th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
The more I look at the vid, the more I don’t think its a travel, its not an up and down, he had one foot on the ground the entire time, he takes like a hop step with one foot on the ground dragging, and then starts dribbling as that foot is dragging, so I dont think its traveling. Anyone else have insight?
September 24th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
“The more I look at the vid, the more I don’t think its a travel, its not an up and down, he had one foot on the ground the entire time, he takes like a hop step with one foot on the ground dragging, and then starts dribbling as that foot is dragging, so I dont think its traveling.”
If the pivot foot drags before the ball gets put down, it’s a travel.
Watching the replay, it’s very close, but it does seems a travel by the book.
September 24th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
To switch the sports metaphors, Team Sedona ain’t nothing but a knuckleball pitcher.
September 24th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
No, Petey, Team Sedona is a fastball pitcher who has resorted to throwing knucklers because his arm is dead and he can no longer bring the high heat. He kept it close for a bit, but now he’s giving up runs, and there’s nothing to do but keep throwing knucklers and getting pounded.
Or, alternatively, they are running the 15 lateral play hoping that the other team overpursues over and over again (and has his flacks shouting “you’re to slow! Your not nimble!” to goad them). Alas, Team Obama is not Millsaps, so while all the laterals are exciting, 8 guys are strung across the 20 yard line ready to make them a McCain pancake when he finally comes down field.
September 24th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Chris Webber’s career is chock full of moments when he gets that same glazed look in his eyes during crunch time. Most often, he fades into the wood work rather than making a public spectacle of his chronic choke-itis. I’ve played sports with with other guys who get the same empty, checked-out look when the pressure is on. The only thing to do with them is try to keep things light and loose and cross your fingers. Not a moral failing, just the way some people are wired.
September 24th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
I look forward to Yglesias twisting the knife in us poor Michigan fans by using all the Hail Mary talk as an excuse for showing us a certain Kordell Stewart play.
Which, by the way, took place on September 24, if I am not mistaken.
September 24th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
It was all Mike Talley’s fault …
September 24th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Bad move.
Speak for yourself. I won my NCAA pool because of that.
September 24th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Completely inapt metaphor:
(1) Chris Webber’s time-out was an aberration, not an indicator of an inept and overwhelmed player struggling in the face of high-level competition;
(2)Michigan had a decent chance to win at the time the time-out was called;
(3) Chris Webber was surrounded by an excellent team of intelligent and sophisticated players, most of whom were ready to perform at the highest level;
(4) Chris Webber is smarter than John McCain, and probably studied harder in college;
(5) Chris Webber was an excellent player and one of the better passing bigs to ever play (i.e., he knew how to delegate and put others in a position to succeed);
(6) Chris Webber took responsibility for his actions — that is, he knows it was a mistake;
(7) Chris Webber did not attempt to get Carolina to agree to a weekend suspension of the game;
(8)Chris Webber is a tall, handsome, wealthy and articulate black man from a poor background who, through a combination of hard work and innate talent, obtained a degree from one of the most prestigious universities in America and rose to the top of his profession, and who has shown consistent grace and good humor when asked to explain his actions in that game.
September 24th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
James Leonard aka Jalen should have CAME back to the ball. Webb was a big, this is a fundamental (no I’m not talking about the American worker) skill of all guards. I still haven’t figured out if he was trying to leak out, but that was his responsibility and Ray Jackson and Jimmy King.
Igloo, I totally get the analogy, but DO NOT make me relieve this moment again…Fab 5 baby!
k1
September 24th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Haven’t watched that clip since it was first broadcast 15 years ago. Jesus Christ that was painful. What a great team the Fab Five was.
Kinda looks like traveling to me. The NC guys on the bench certainly thought it was, and, I think, so did C-Webb – that’s why he was so befuddled when he reached the other end. And, as others have pointed out, where the fuck were the guards? Why did they abandon Chris under the hoop?
Also, Webber’s family wasn’t poor; he was solidly middle-class, as are most black Detroiters. I’ve been canvassing the East-Side for Obama all month. Look for a huge Detroit turnout that delivers a solid Obama victory in Michigan.
September 24th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
As a Redskins fan, I would like to personally thank you for not putting up the video of Joe Gibbs calling 2 timeouts between 2 plays, earning a 15 yard penalty and putting the Bills within easy field goal range.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/12/51_yard_fg_for_the_win.html
September 25th, 2008 at 3:31 am
Once again watching Derrick Phelps and George Lynch hound Chris Webber until he goes Mcain-$@&^ crazy is a nice way to end the day. So thanks Matt. And while we’re sharing video how about this clip from the series Home Movies, where Coach John McCain, Umm I mean John McGuirk learns that in soccer, like presidential campaigns, there are no timeouts:
http://au.truveo.com/I-Used-To-Be-Like-You/id/2130064175
September 25th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Just a couple points that people forget when bashing Webber for that:
1) Michigan was *down* with only a few seconds left.
2) He called the TO he didn’t have because he was cornered with nobody to pass it to.
Webber didn’t lose the game…he just guaranteed the loss. Now if only Pat Sullivan had hit that free throw.
To Th: I was not in my crappy Carrboro apartment watching that game. I was in my girlfriend’s much nicer Chapel Hill apartment
September 25th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I wasn’t in a crappy apartment watching the game. I had jumped in my car, drove from Silver Spring MD to Chapel Hill and watched the game on a big screen at Carmichael. I knew it was a tech, and a walk before that and the game was ours.
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