The Old Right
Present-day conservatism is obsessed with killing Muslims, which has put it in alliance with Israeli nationalism in a way that’s at odds with the American right’s traditional anti-semitism. But after promising to balance the budget by eliminating aid to Israel it seems that the McCain campaign has been looking for other ways to get back in touch with these kind of roots. In particular, in her introductory speech Sarah Palin quoted an oldtime conservative populist named Westbrook Pegler. She didn’t, however, use his name, presumably because whoever dug the quote up for her knew who the source was and knew that the source was disreputable. Ben Smith explains:
It’s an odd source because Pegler, who moved further right as his career went on, ended up very, very far out. Frank notes that he talked hopefully of the assassination of Franklin Roosevelt.
He was also known for what Philip Roth described as his “casual distaste for Jews,” which had become so evident by the end that he was bounced from the journal of the John Birch Society in 1964 for alleged anti-semitism. According to his obituary, he’d advanced the theory that American Jews of Eastern European descent were “instinctively sympathetic to Communism, however outwardly respectable they appeared.”
According to Smith the likely source of the quote was a 1990 Pat Buchanan book that seems to be the only easily available online source.
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September 11th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Doesn’t this give more veracity to the fact of her support of Pat Buchanan in 2000? Can the Democrats take advantage of this in Florida?
September 11th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Knowing that the guy who said, “We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity,” was an open antisemite puts a rather different twist on his meaning . . . kinda like talking about “rootless cosmopolitans”.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Since when isn’t hating on Jews a political winner? Worked wonders for many famous world leaders. Palin would fit right in with many of them.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Matt, you lost me with the first clause of the first sentence. Just who are these conservatives “obsessed with killing Muslims”? Rather, it’s the jihadists who are obsessed with killing us. We’ve done a good job of quashing that ambition the past seven years.
A quote from the forgotten Westbrook Pegler? That discredits her entire speech, doesn’t it? I can imagine Republicans scanning BHO’s speeches for phrases from Henry Wallace. Seriously, you guys must be running out of ammunition. Jeez!
September 11th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Re “instinctively sympathetic to Communism”
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The only people of that time I would judge “instinctively sympathetic to Communism” would have been the 10 members of the atomic spy rings who gave the detailed atomic bomb design to Stalin. 10 Americans who gave Joseph Stalin the power to burn American cities.
I believe they were all Lutheran. As were the prosecutator and the Judge who sent two to the electric chair and the others to prison terms.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Of course, the prison terms did nothing to undo the damage. Which we still live with today.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Excellent post.
Seriously, you guys must be running out of ammunition. Jeez!
This is the conservative response when they have no response. Total win. Let’s burn this chick’s career to the ground.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Is anyone else kind of getting the feeling that maybe Buchanan himself is a back door advisor to Palin? We know they have warm relations as she was a brigader for him in the 1990’s.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
So if we’re not allowed to quote racists, does that mean no more quoting Benjamin Franklin? Are references to Teddy Roosevelt’s deeds now because of his racism? Shall we cancel Obama’s appearance at the Jefferson-Jackson dinner because they were both slave owners?
Lord knows I am not voting for McCain, but this is just a stupid line of attack.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
@Don:
Hmm. Atomic spies:
Morris Cohen and his wife. Ten years in prison. Jewish.
Klaus Fuchs: Lutheran
Harry gold: 30 years in prison. Jewish.
David Greenglass. 15 years in prison. Jewish.
Ted Hall: never caught. Jewish.
Allan May:
The Rosenbergs. Executed. Jewish. Who knows if they are guilty.
Saville Sax: jewish.
Morton Sobell: Jewish. 30 years in prison.
So I count 11, 9 of whom are jewish. One Lutheran. One never caught.
I could agree that Jews were being targeted as Atomic spies, or that recent Russian immigrants like them were more likely to be recruited. But the fact is the majority of Atomic spies that we know about were Jewish. Sorry.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Present-day conservatism is obsessed with killing Muslims, which has put it in alliance with Israeli nationalism in a way that’s at odds with the American right’s traditional anti-semitism.
Wow. How many ridiculous smears can you fit into one sentence, Matt?
September 11th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Don Williams, the Rosenberg’s weren’t Lutheran, not that it makes any difference at all.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
How is it possible to get thrown out of the John Birch
Society for anti-semitism?
Was there also a goat involved?
September 11th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Re Charlie
Mr. Williams was just being snarky. He well knows that the individuals named were of the chosen people.
Re Don Williams
Of course, in fairness, one should list some of the people who were instrumental in our developing nuclear weapons.
J. Robert Oppenheimer - Jewish
Edward Teller - Jewish
Leo Szilard - Jewish
Albert Einstein - Jewish
Hans Bethe - Jewish
Eugene Wigner -Jewish
Neils Bohr - 1/2 Jewish
As usual, Mr. Williams in his inimitable manner fails to tell the whole story. Of course, his claim that the former Soviet Union would not have developed nuclear weapons is total crap. Undoubtedly, the information obtained from the spies sped things along but not that much, as the head of the Soviet nuclear program, the late Andrei Sakharov has testified.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
the fact is the majority of Atomic spies that we know about were Jewish.
Do you think the high percentage of atomic scientists who were Jewish might have something to do with that?
September 11th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I forgot to mention Otto Frisch - Jewish, nephew of Lise Meitner, whose calculation showed that a critical mass of U235 was about a kilogram, not 100 kilograms as calculated by Werner Heisenberg.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
We’ve lived nuclear war-free under the umbrella of MAD for lo these many years. You think the Bomb might have been used more often if there were only 1 country that had one? Sure looks like a rational counter-factual to me.
The sin of Adam and Eve is called “felix culpa”, the Fortunate (Happy) Fall, in Christian orthodoxy because it brought Christ to the world. It seems that the world has benefited by the perfidy of the nuclear spy ring.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
I would imagine that Mr. Pegler’s attitude problems were rooted in his having had the shit regularly kicked out of him as a kid for being named “Westbrook.”
September 11th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Not sure how unlikely it is that Palin could have come up with this quote herself, given her background, though I’m not saying she did, especially considering the circumstances of how her speech got written.
Hardcore conservative John Birch style folks have ready access to this information, which is often sent around in newsletters and various pamphlets through the mail, as well as through other members making copies and email chains, and of course little to any of this activity will register on the Internets.
Palin seems like just the type who has some sympathies to this strain of conservatism, just looking at her background, as well as the sympathies towards the Alaskan secessionists, who must be a very active pamphlet culture with their own proclivities to hardcore conservative populist thinking and rhetoric, and even if Palin wasn’t driving this bus in her house, her husband seems to have been very active in this subculture of not only activity but thought and probably had all the materials lying around (and discussed them with his wife).
September 11th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
So she plagiarized in her acceptance speech, too.
Didn’t Biden get seriously spanked for something similar???
September 11th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Re SLC’s comment “his claim that the former Soviet Union would not have developed nuclear weapons is total crap. Undoubtedly, the information obtained from the spies sped things along but not that much, as the head of the Soviet nuclear program, the late Andrei Sakharov has testified.”
———–
1) Yes, Saddam Hussein and the Iranians have shown how easy it is to make the bomb. Nazi Germany found it a walk in the park.
2) Sakharov was full of shit — or , more likely, giving convenient political cover to some people.
I myself wonder how the Soviet Union ,devastated by the long war on the Eastern Front, would have been able to duplicate the enormous , hugely costly effort of the Manhattan Project. Especially under the pressure of a nonproliferation regime enforced by a militarily superior USA possessing a monopoly on atomic weapons. But we will never know, will we?
3) The major shortcut given to Stalin was the plutonium implosion design. The uranium bomb required Separating out a small percentage of U235 isotope from the chemically identical U238 , which was enormously difficult and required huge amounts of hydroelectic power from easily bombed dams. Look at the Paducah plant in Kentucky sometime.
4) The alternate approach –use of Plutonium –was far easier because plutonium could be separated from uranium via chemical processing. That’s why almost all subsequent bombs were the plutonium implosion design.
But plutonium required the far more complex , precisely designed implosion approach. In which a layer of high explosive wrapped around a hollow sphere of plutonium crushed the sphere into a small point and held it there. A very difficult problem to solve –simultaneously detonating precisely designed explosive lenses around the sphere so that the expanding explosions would be curved into a compressive wave. The solution –i.e., the precise blueprint — was handed to Stalin.
5) The head of the Soviet Bomb project stated that the implosion approach was counterintuitive and had never occurred to him. Even it had eventually, it would probably had been mentally rejected as impractical –unless you had the unique combination of multiple talents on Manhattan.
And of course, the need for the implosion approach didn’t even become apparent until Manhattan scientists discovered that the simple gun approach would not work because of premature detonation when subcritical plutonium masses approached each other.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
To the credit of the John Birch Society, (a phrase I never thought I would write)they eliminated anti-semitism from Right Wing conspiracy mongering.
Peg was a big deal back then, sort of the Bill O’Reilly of his time. He presented himself as a rough hewn man of the people while opposing any measure to improve the lot of said people. Like Pegler, I keep waiting for O’Reilly to self destruct in the same way. From what I read, Pegler’s father was a mean drunk who kicked the shit out of him regularly, thus relieving his classmates of the responsibilty. He was also a hard working man who taught his son to value a good day’s labor. As a result Peg grew up to be an authoritarian who hated all authority. He hated bosses, he hated Labor, he hated F.D.R. and boy did he hate Eleanor Roosevelt.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Re rea’s comment “Do you think the high percentage of atomic scientists who were Jewish might have something to do with that? ”
———–
The spying biz doesn’t require brainiacs — as the CIA so unfortunately demonstrates. Only two of the 10 atomic spies were scientists on Manhattan. (Greenglass was a machinist/technician.)
September 11th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
I read elsewhere the Pegler quote is from one of Pat Buchanan’s books. He has described himself as a big fan.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
RE Charlies says …
———
A few corrections. Charlie left out David Greenglass’s wife –who was in on the conspiracy even if her contribution was limited. He gave up the Rosenbergs to save her.
The one with the biggest balls in the bunch was Lona Cohen, Morris Cohen’s wife. (The Cohen spy ring was largely separate from the Rosenbergs and received data from Ted Hall, not Klaus Fuchs.)
Lona was a atheist who had been raised a Catholic.
September 11th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Note that the spy rings not only gave Stalin the bomb, they gave Stalin the information that the USA had very few atomic bombs and was not likely to acquire many more in the critical window of 1945 -1953. That the USA was not prepared for a nuclear war.
September 11th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Also, note that Klaus Fuchs was not an American — he was a German with ,I believe, British citizenship.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Matt, playing these kind of Six Degrees of Political Incorrectness games is puerile. I regularly quote, for example, Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin, which doesn’t mean I want to starve the kulaks.
Anyway, this point-and-sputter quote you dredge up from Pegler is more or less the theme of UC Berkeley historian Yuri Slezkine’s outstanding 2004 book, The Jewish Century, on the disproportionately enthusiastic Jewish participation in the Soviet state from 1917 through 1947. Slezkine’s book received glowing reviews from scholars writing in the Jewish press. (It was ignored in the mainstream press, of course.)
http://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Century-Yuri-Slezkine/dp/0691119953
This kind of post just makes you seem ignorant and childish.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Don Williams, very interesting posts about the atomic spy rings. You seem to know a lot about the era. Do you think the Communists would have invaded South Korea if they hadn’t stolen our A-bomb secrets? I’ve always wondered about that. Some say one reason Truman dropped two A-bombs on Japan was to demonstrate to the Russians our willingness to use them if necessary.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Let’s also acknowledge the simple fact that, had we been able to keep the Soviet’s from developing nuclear weapons, the United States certainly would have used them multiple times in the post war years.
I’m no fan of the soviets, and MAD certainly had its risks, but on balance I am glad that the threat of annihilation kept the U.S. from further use of Atomic weapons.
So really let’s have some appreciation for the spies, who were on the whole acting on a sincere and justified desire to prevent a disastrous atomic monopoly. They are haros in my book.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
heroes, that is. They are heroes.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Mr. Sailer,
Um, why would the Russian Jews _not_ have had a disproportionate inclination towards the Soviets? From the Jews’ point of view, the Soviets were the ones who had overthrown Czarist Russia, which had a history of notorious anti-Semitism. Not that everything about Czarist Russia was bad, far from it, and not that life under Lenin was any better (and under Stalin it was much worse), but no one can deny that the pre-revolutionary Russian regime was riddled with anti-Semitism; not on the level of simple harmless rhetoric or propaganda, but on the level of pogroms. In addition, of course, the Soviets were the ones who had probably the biggest responsibility for defeating the Nazis. Given that most Russian Jews were probably simultaneously anti-Czarist and anti-Nazi (for good reason) it’s not surprising they gravitated to the Bolsheviks.
September 11th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
If you’re going to smear the works of all writers, historians, and philosophers said to have an anti-Semitic bent - it’ll have to include: Herodotus, Shakespeare, Racine, Montaigne, Twain, T.S. Eliot, Toynbee, Hamsun, Pound, Mencken, Edmund Wilson, E.M. Forster, Celine, Welty, Waugh, Wilder, Mishima, Borges, and Jews such as Nathaniel West, Budd Schulberg, Saul Bellow, and Philip Roth, as well as contemporary writers amongst them Thomas McGuane, Paul and Alexander Theroux, and Diane Johnson.It’s a ridiculous way to go.
September 11th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
RE O’Neal’s question: “Do you think the Communists would have invaded South Korea if they hadn’t stolen our A-bomb secrets? I’ve always wondered about that.”
—————-
1) Here is what Judge Irving Kaufman (who was Jewish, by the way) stated when he sentenced the Rosenbergs to death:
“Plain deliberate contemplated murder is dwarfed in magnitude by comparison with the crime you have committed. In committing the act of murder, the criminal kills only his victim. The immediate family is brought to grief and when justice is meted out the chapter is closed.
But in your case, I believe your conduct in putting into the hands of the Russians the A-bomb years before our best scientists predicted Russia would perfect the bomb has already caused, in my opinion, the Communist aggression in Korea, with the resultant casualties exceeding 50,000 and who knows but that millions more of innocent people may pay the price of your treason.
Indeed, by your betrayal you undoubtedly have altered the course of history to the disadvantage of our country. ”
2. As I noted earlier, the spies not only gave Stalin the detailed design of the plutonium bomb. They also gave him continual progress reports on the few numbers of bombs built by the US and the status of bomb manufacturing plants. This gave Stalin confidence in standing up to Truman.
2. My father-in-law was a soldier in Korea, was captured, was held as a POW for over a year and almost died. My father was in the Army as well, although he was not sent to Korea. (He worked on the missile sites set up to guard Washington.)
So I find it hard to be objective on this subject. Especially since I know what a 1 megaton nuke would do if it was detonated above Philadelphia.
September 11th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Mr. Williams;
It is always a fundamental mistake to underestimate your opponents, and you should not denigrate either Sakarov (a very fine man) or the Soviet nuclear program. It had, after all, unlimited resources and some very smart people devoted to it (as, of course, did ours). Sakarov, for example, got the Lenin Prize for the layer cake design, which we had dismissed as not worthy of consideration, and that innovation enabled them to go to fusion-fission weapons in a fairly short time.
The fission bomb was not really the world-changing event it seemed at the time. Yes, it enabled one bomb to wreck a city, but we had the ability to do that already with conventional weapons. (We dropped, for example, many kilotons of conventional bombs on Germany and Japan, and they recovered.) It was the fusion bomb that brought about MAD, and the Soviets largely did theirs on their own.
September 11th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Trevor,
Simone Weil was often said to have an anti-Semitic bent, although she was of full-blooded Jewish descent. I wouldn’t call her anti-Semitic, but her violent contempt and antipathy towards the Jewish religion is sometimes quite shocking in its intensity. In fairness, she was writing (just barely) before the truth of the Holocaust became known in the West.
She was also of course one of the most important spiritual and moral voices of the 20th century, and listening her thoughts could do much to bring a corrupt and decadent modern age to its senses.
September 11th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Right, as Prof. Slezkine points out, young educated Jews in Russia felt they were being discriminated against for three main reasons, each of which Communism promised to deal with.
Religion — Communism promised to abolish religion, so problem solved.
Nationalism — Communism promised to abolish nations, so problem solved.
Capitalism (The masses were violent toward Jews because they were so good at capitalism) — Communism promised to abolish capitalism, so problem solved.
So, educated Jews turned to the left, and when the Bolsheviks came out on top, signed up in large numbers to play key roles in the Bolshevik state from roughly 1917 to 1947. With the founding of Israel raising questions of dual loyalty, traditional Russian anti-Semitism re-emerged, beginning the slow alienation of Jews within the Soviet Union, leading to the present stereotype of Jews as leading victims of the Soviet Union, which Slezkine, whose mother is Jewish, shared while growing up a dissident in Russia. He only learned the reality when he began to study the 1917-1947 era.
Of course, here in the land of the free and the home of the brave, we know almost nothing about this rather important aspect of 20th Century history.
September 11th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Here’s the source for the above Judge Kaufman quote, by the way: http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/rosenb/ROS_SENT.HTM
It gives his further comment.
September 11th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Don Williams, thanks for the quote from the trial judge. I hadn’t seen it before. It’s amazing that some on the left still consider the spies “heroes” (”innocent” seems to have been abandoned after the Soviet spy files were opened). The communists of that era were not well-meaning, gooey-brained liberals but rather Russian agents committed to the enslavement of their own country. The spies gave the Soviets the weapons to potentially destroy millions, but after forty years of Cold War, our principles of liberty finally prevailed and the Evil Empire crumbled. No doubt a sad day for VoR and his ilk.
September 11th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Re marshall’s comment “Sakarov, for example, got the Lenin Prize for the layer cake design, which we had dismissed as not worthy of consideration, and that innovation enabled them to go to fusion-fission weapons in a fairly short time.”
———–
Klaus Fuchs also worked on the initial explorations of hydrogen bomb development at Los Alamos. The extent to which he and the spy rings helped the Soviets in this area is subject to debate — see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Fuchs#Value_of_Fuchs.27_data_to_the_Soviet_project
and Richard Rhodes’ “Dark Sun: The Making of the Hydrogen Bomb”. (Page 254 notes that Klaus Fuchs reviewed everything in the Los Alamos Library on fusion prior to his departure in 1946 — and Fuchs sat in on joint US -British nuclear conferences in 1947.)
There was at least one other Soviet spy at Los Alamos who was never captured and executed.
(Or at least not publicly. heh heh heh).
September 11th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Re marshall’s comment “The fission bomb was not really the world-changing event it seemed at the time. …It was the fusion bomb that brought about MAD, and the Soviets largely did theirs on their own.”
——–
But the plutonium implosion fission bomb is the TRIGGER to the hydrogen bomb.
You have to have that before you can even begin to think about building a hydrogen bomb.
And the hydrogen bomb is relatively simple compared to the problem of making implosion work.
September 11th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Re marshall’s comment “you should not denigrate either Sakarov (a very fine man)”
—————
1) I just place Sakarov’s dismissal of the Jewish atomic spy rings in context. Sakarov’s mother in law was Jewish. And while, in the normal course of things, that should have turned him into a violent anti-Semite, the reverse actually happened.
Sakarov used his considerable prestiage in Russia to agitate for the right of 1 million Russian Jews to emigrate to Israel. To exert strong US economic pressure on the Soviet Union over this issue, he worked with US Senator Scoop Jackson and an aide of Jackson’s named Richard Perle. Does that ring any fucking bells?
2) They have a monument to Sakarov in Israel. For two things: (a) For fiercely defending human rights — including the rights of Jews in Russia to humane treatment and the right to emigrate/live where they chose and
(b) for never suggesting that those same principles should be applied to the Palestinians.
see http://www.forward.com/article/kgb-confidential-unearthing-a-hero-of-soviet-jewr/
September 11th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Don Williams,
That’s idiotic. Sakharov didn’t agitate for the rights of the Palestinians because it wasn’t _his_ government that was oppressing the Palestinians. Naturally, Sakharov was more upset by the flaws of his government than the flaws of another one. In addition, the Soviet Union was supposed to be a society based on human equality where ethnicity no longer meant anything, so anti-Semitism was really a violation of its principles. Israel was just another nation founded on old-fashioned ethnic nationalism (just like Italy, Germany, or Sweden) so its policy towards Palestinians was not so much a violation of its own ideology.
It’s Sakharov, by the way, with an ‘h’. Russian “kh” is a totally different sound from ‘k’, as I’m reminded whenever Russians mispronounce my name. If you’re going to indulge in anti-Semitic slurs about Russian intellectuals then at least get their names correct.
September 11th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Mr. Sailer,
I’m curious….were the Russian Jews simply pro-Left or specifically pro-Bolshevik? In other words, were they also favorable towards the “other” party of the far Left, the Socialist Revolutionaries? The SR’s were as socialist and anti-capitalist as the Bolsheviks, but were also quite nationalistic, anti-modern, and agrarian. I wonder what the Russian Jews felt about the SR’s.
September 11th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
“Present-day conservatism is obsessed with killing Muslims”
What a desipcable little liar you are.
September 11th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Co-incidentally, Morton Sobell admitted spying for the Soviets and implicated the Rosenbergs in the NYT today. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/12/nyregion/12spy.html?ex=1378872000&en=c07e5f36ab5a4417&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
September 11th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Re Hector’s comment “I’m curious….were the Russian Jews simply pro-Left or specifically pro-Bolshevik? In other words, were they also favorable towards the “other” party of the far Left, the Socialist Revolutionaries?”
———-
Actually, the interesting question is who did the American Jews in New York support –since they were funding the war against the Tsars. Jacob Hirsch Schiff, for example –see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff
The Tsar’s Intelligence Service is allegedly the ones who forged “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”. But even anti-Semitic paranoids can have real enemies. hee hee hee
Unfortunately, Schiff’s commies lost out to Lenin’s commies –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Kerensky#February_Revolution_of_1917
Schiff had his puppet Woodrow Wilson throw some help Kerensky’s way –including invading Russia after Kerensky’s overthrow. Something the US Government never got around to mentioning when discussing “Bolshevik Aggression”.
See
“The American North Russia Expeditionary Force” at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_Bear_Expedition and
“American Expeditionary Force Siberia” at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia .
September 11th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Re Hector’s comment “I’m curious….were the Russian Jews simply pro-Left or specifically pro-Bolshevik? In other words, were they also favorable towards the “other” party of the far Left, the Socialist Revolutionaries?”
———-
Actually, the interesting question is who did the American Jews in New York support –since they were funding the war against the Tsars. Jacob Hirsch Schiff, for example –see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff
The Tsar’s Intelligence Service is allegedly the ones who forged “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”.
But even anti-Semitic paranoids can have real enemies. hee hee hee
September 11th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Unfortunately, Jacob Schiff’s commies lost out to Lenin’s commies –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Kerensky#February_Revolution_of_1917
Schiff had his puppet Woodrow Wilson throw some help Kerensky’s way –including invading Russia after Kerensky’s overthrow. Something the US Government never got around to mentioning when discussing “Bolshevik Aggression”.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
I believe that pre-Revolution, Russian Jews tended to be most heavily represented in other parties of the left, then moved into the Bolsheviks (e.g., Trotsky).
Solzhenitsyn’s “200 Years Together” covers the details, but it can’t seem to get published in the U.S. But Slezkine’s book handles the topic well.
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