Yes, John is very humble about his service. I mean, its not like his whole argument is “don’t worry about my policies…trust me, I was in a box for 5 years.”
I love how Palin has the experience for VP, and heart beat away from the President, and yet McCain feels he must “introduce her to Washington.” Really? Thats quite some double-edged sword you got there. “Trust me…Palin doesn’t know Washington, but thats a good thing!”
I love how these people think they’ll actually get things done with a Democratic Congress.
It’s getting to be rather absurd. I cannot begin to imagine spending five hours, much less five years, in a prison camp. I respect his service to our country, but it doesn’t give him any greater level of competence than others. It’d be one thing if he were a high-level military commander, but he wasn’t. I’m not going to deny that I made this sort of argument for Kerry in 2004, but then again, I was a college freshman and sophomore while that election was taking place. I’ve been out of college for a little less than two years, yet in that time, I think I’ve matured in my thinking. That’s why I understand what McCain is saying is nonsense, even if I respect his time and dedication.
Wow. MSNBC just informed me that McCain is reluctant to use his history as a POW for political purposes. But his advisors told him he just had to do it. What a hero.
It’s a bit disorienting for me, after having viewed the Republican Party for years as a shrewd and frighteningly skilled political operation that always kept Democrats cowed and on the defensive, and that always seemed to have their fingers right on the pulse of middle America, to see the Republicans fall so rapidly into an amateur hour bunch. That convention was a mess. They have no ideas, and no message discipline.
Palin is very good looking and she seems very sweet and likable –
Unfortunately for McCain she makes him look older.
The genial warmonger personality is one that ’serious’ media types like – They think he is ‘classic’ and they like him for not teasing them for being chickenhawks and draft dodgers.
That’s why the STE media like him – But it may not be enough – They also like the idea of Obama (if not the actual man)
Gore hatred was the main reason why the liberal media supported Bush – Then they resented Kerry for being a better version of themselves.
Bush made the media feel good – They liked to condescend to him and explain away his lies by blaming bad intelligence or neocons.
The media landscape is more even now – They still cut McCain slack on lying about war and racial code word campaign.
But now that Obama is post-Wright, they may favor him going forward.
The Bush administration has conducted an extensive spying operation on Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, his staff and others in the Iraqi government, according to a new book by Washington Post associate editor Bob Woodward.
That’s a *little* wierd. What’s a lot wierd is game shooting from helicopters. Hunters know that’s bullshit. You aren’t tagging the wolves from helicoptors because it’s efficient, it’s because it’s lazy and fun.
It also doesn’t make for clean kills. For normal humans in the lower 48 wolves are a little too close to hunting dogs to even shoot at them much less make a game out of shooting them from helicopters.
Make some videos out of that and see how it plays with Ducks Unlimited.
Ok guys, what did you think of the speech? I found it to be pretty mild and unexciting, although better in its content and much less… offensively partisan than Palin’s speech.
Alright, someone needs to ask McCain: “Outside of your experience in getting shot down and tortured for 5 years, what other aspects of your military career would you consider “Presidential”?”
McCain spent five years in a box in Hanoi being tortured to renounce his true beliefs. Why does he keep bringing it up? It’s the best way to explain how he feels running for President.
to The Rock re the big “house” on the green lawn — see Josh Marshall. Apparently it’s the facade of a Walter Reed Middle School in Los Angeles somewhere. Speculation is that some young Google-reliant GOP whipper snapper was given the task of finding an image of Walter Reed Hospital for the slide show (they’re using slide shows!) and googled up an image of the wrong building named Walter Reed. These modern times!
My heart hit the floor when he walked out onto the stage at the DNC and declared “John Kerry, ready for duty!” or whatever the stupid line was. Most inept, tone-deaf piece of political theater–and all politics is theater–I’ve ever seen. Even before the righties started using it to justify the swiftboating crap (”he put his military service on the table!”) it struck me as a master-stroke of bad judgment, pointing to a seriously deluded or incompetent messaging team. A very depressing omen for his campaign, as far as I was concerned from that moment on.
McCain didn’t do anything that singularly bad last night, but they have overplayed noun-verb-POW! to where it’s becoming a legitimate joke, not about his service but about the way his campaign is exploiting same. If they’re smart, they’ve been figuring to wring it out of all its juice in the primary-convention stage, and will lay off of it from here out. But I don’t know if they’re that smart, or if they can really afford to since that’s really 90% of his message.
My heart hit the floor when he walked out onto the stage at the DNC and declared “John Kerry, ready for duty!” or whatever the stupid line was. Most inept, tone-deaf piece of political theater–and all politics is theater–I’ve ever seen.
THe most inept? What about “We’re coming, they’re going, don’t let the door hit you on the way out?” from his Iowa speech and then repeated at his NH victory speech? What about “Bring! It! On!” ? What about the flight attendants singing some stilted pro-Kerry song to the tune of “Rollin’ on the River”?
No, I agree. When me & my friends were watching the 2004 DNC and John Kerry saluted and said “John Kerry, repoooorting foooooor doooooody!”, we all turned to each other and said, “Yep. That’s it. We’re f***ed.”
September 4th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
But did you not hear Cindy McCain? John is very quiet about his experience in ‘Nam
September 4th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
heh
September 4th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Wow! The got Jack Donaghy to narrate it. Impressive.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Is that one of McCain’s houses on the green screen?
September 4th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Note: No flags were harmed in the making of this video.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Let me just remind you that during John McCain’s years in a POW camp, he wasn’t able to exploit his time in a POW camp.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Why is it that no political campaigns accept PayPal for making donations? Is it some legal thing?
September 4th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Yes, John is very humble about his service. I mean, its not like his whole argument is “don’t worry about my policies…trust me, I was in a box for 5 years.”
September 4th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Notice how John says “WARshington”
September 4th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
I love how Palin has the experience for VP, and heart beat away from the President, and yet McCain feels he must “introduce her to Washington.” Really? Thats quite some double-edged sword you got there. “Trust me…Palin doesn’t know Washington, but thats a good thing!”
I love how these people think they’ll actually get things done with a Democratic Congress.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Notice how John says “WARshington”
He’s from Pittsburgh??
September 4th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Did you know he was a POW?
September 4th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Has he explained why he’s the top of the ticket given that Palin has more executive experience than he does?
September 4th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
AMERICA!!!!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!
September 4th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
I kinda nodded off there in the middle, so I missed the part about how they managed to hide the dirt when they dug the tunnel.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
It’s getting to be rather absurd. I cannot begin to imagine spending five hours, much less five years, in a prison camp. I respect his service to our country, but it doesn’t give him any greater level of competence than others. It’d be one thing if he were a high-level military commander, but he wasn’t. I’m not going to deny that I made this sort of argument for Kerry in 2004, but then again, I was a college freshman and sophomore while that election was taking place. I’ve been out of college for a little less than two years, yet in that time, I think I’ve matured in my thinking. That’s why I understand what McCain is saying is nonsense, even if I respect his time and dedication.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Wow. MSNBC just informed me that McCain is reluctant to use his history as a POW for political purposes. But his advisors told him he just had to do it. What a hero.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
I noticed that the second song played after McCain’s speech was the kickass yet completely inappropriate “Barracuda”. A sample lyric:
If the real thing don’t do the trick
You better make up something quick
You gonna burn burn burn burn it to the wick
Ooooooh, barracuda?
A fitting coda to a convention filled with whoopsiedaisies.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
John McCain served in a war?
No kidding– Union or Confederacy?
September 4th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Amos, that was Ann Curry, who readily admitted she’s been on the Straight Talk Express for nine months, so she should know right?
She struck me as particularly obnoxious and rude last week at the DNC. Her time on the STE explains a lot, methinks.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Chris Matthews – for years has complimented McCain for his refusal to even mention his POW status.
Damm Kerry – always talkn’ about ‘Nam -
Morton Kondracke said it was tacky – That’s why
McCain is so reticent!
Ye got that , Matt?
McCain is Efffing RETICENT!!!!!!
USA
USA
USA
USA
USA
ps – down with the Redskins!
September 5th, 2008 at 12:03 am
Looks like the Barracda is eating Mac’s lunch. Nora O’Donnell is calling it the GOP Palin’s Party.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:03 am
It’s a bit disorienting for me, after having viewed the Republican Party for years as a shrewd and frighteningly skilled political operation that always kept Democrats cowed and on the defensive, and that always seemed to have their fingers right on the pulse of middle America, to see the Republicans fall so rapidly into an amateur hour bunch. That convention was a mess. They have no ideas, and no message discipline.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Palin is very good looking and she seems very sweet and likable –
Unfortunately for McCain she makes him look older.
The genial warmonger personality is one that ’serious’ media types like – They think he is ‘classic’ and they like him for not teasing them for being chickenhawks and draft dodgers.
That’s why the STE media like him – But it may not be enough – They also like the idea of Obama (if not the actual man)
Gore hatred was the main reason why the liberal media supported Bush – Then they resented Kerry for being a better version of themselves.
Bush made the media feel good – They liked to condescend to him and explain away his lies by blaming bad intelligence or neocons.
The media landscape is more even now – They still cut McCain slack on lying about war and racial code word campaign.
But now that Obama is post-Wright, they may favor him going forward.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:29 am
McCain’s mindset is still a prisoner of war, as far as I can tell.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:48 am
Hey look, we’ve been spying on al-Maliki
September 5th, 2008 at 12:54 am
correction – McCain does tease his pals in the media and they like that.
Bush makes up nicknames – McCain calls them commies etc.
The media love that frat BS
September 5th, 2008 at 1:00 am
Hockey = White Murican
Community Organizing = Basketball playa cosmopolitans
September 5th, 2008 at 1:45 am
Hockey = White Murican
That’s a *little* wierd. What’s a lot wierd is game shooting from helicopters. Hunters know that’s bullshit. You aren’t tagging the wolves from helicoptors because it’s efficient, it’s because it’s lazy and fun.
It also doesn’t make for clean kills. For normal humans in the lower 48 wolves are a little too close to hunting dogs to even shoot at them much less make a game out of shooting them from helicopters.
Make some videos out of that and see how it plays with Ducks Unlimited.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:45 am
What video?
September 5th, 2008 at 1:52 am
September 5th, 2008 at 1:54 am
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/8/31/22337/7183
just cut and past that. Think Progress keeps eating everything else I do.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:46 am
shhh, he doesn’t like to talk about it.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:57 am
Ok guys, what did you think of the speech? I found it to be pretty mild and unexciting, although better in its content and much less… offensively partisan than Palin’s speech.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:45 am
Did Kennedy keep talking about how he won a Medal Of Honour? Or Kerry about his service in Vietnam?
September 5th, 2008 at 5:36 am
To paraphrase (or maybe just misquote) John Stewart:
“Guantanamo isn’t a prison, it’s a leadership academy”
September 5th, 2008 at 7:05 am
Alright, someone needs to ask McCain: “Outside of your experience in getting shot down and tortured for 5 years, what other aspects of your military career would you consider “Presidential”?”
September 5th, 2008 at 8:12 am
McCain spent five years in a box in Hanoi being tortured to renounce his true beliefs. Why does he keep bringing it up? It’s the best way to explain how he feels running for President.
September 5th, 2008 at 8:12 am
to The Rock re the big “house” on the green lawn — see Josh Marshall. Apparently it’s the facade of a Walter Reed Middle School in Los Angeles somewhere. Speculation is that some young Google-reliant GOP whipper snapper was given the task of finding an image of Walter Reed Hospital for the slide show (they’re using slide shows!) and googled up an image of the wrong building named Walter Reed. These modern times!
September 5th, 2008 at 8:21 am
… Or Kerry about his service in Vietnam?
My heart hit the floor when he walked out onto the stage at the DNC and declared “John Kerry, ready for duty!” or whatever the stupid line was. Most inept, tone-deaf piece of political theater–and all politics is theater–I’ve ever seen. Even before the righties started using it to justify the swiftboating crap (”he put his military service on the table!”) it struck me as a master-stroke of bad judgment, pointing to a seriously deluded or incompetent messaging team. A very depressing omen for his campaign, as far as I was concerned from that moment on.
McCain didn’t do anything that singularly bad last night, but they have overplayed noun-verb-POW! to where it’s becoming a legitimate joke, not about his service but about the way his campaign is exploiting same. If they’re smart, they’ve been figuring to wring it out of all its juice in the primary-convention stage, and will lay off of it from here out. But I don’t know if they’re that smart, or if they can really afford to since that’s really 90% of his message.
September 5th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Aw, the part about the 42-year-old married guy lying about his age to hit on a 21-year-old girl was absolutely priceless.
He’s like that guy from The Wedding Singer, except instead of driving a limo, he rides around in them.
September 5th, 2008 at 8:40 am
My heart hit the floor when he walked out onto the stage at the DNC and declared “John Kerry, ready for duty!” or whatever the stupid line was. Most inept, tone-deaf piece of political theater–and all politics is theater–I’ve ever seen.
THe most inept? What about “We’re coming, they’re going, don’t let the door hit you on the way out?” from his Iowa speech and then repeated at his NH victory speech? What about “Bring! It! On!” ? What about the flight attendants singing some stilted pro-Kerry song to the tune of “Rollin’ on the River”?
September 5th, 2008 at 9:05 am
No, I agree. When me & my friends were watching the 2004 DNC and John Kerry saluted and said “John Kerry, repoooorting foooooor doooooody!”, we all turned to each other and said, “Yep. That’s it. We’re f***ed.”
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