Matt Yglesias

Sep 30th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

McCain: “Is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that’s depicted?”

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Interesting 1998 interview with John McCain conducted by Jason Vest for Mother Jones (ellipsis in original):

You not only have had combat experience in Vietnam, but you were also a prisoner of war. When you look at terrorism right now, with people like Osama bin Laden, do you have any reservations about watching strikes like that?

You could say, Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that’s depicted? Most of us have never heard of him before. And where there is a parallel with Vietnam is: What’s plan B? What do we do next? We sent our troops into Vietnam to protect the bases. Lyndon Johnson said, Only to protect the bases. Next thing you know…. Well, we’ve declared to the terrorists that we’re going to strike them wherever they live. That’s fine. But what’s next? That’s where there might be some comparison.

Not that many people were ahead of the curve on al-Qaeda in the 1990s, and we see here that John McCain was no exception. 9/11 made a lot of people think, though, that we should get more serious about fighting al-Qaeda. It made McCain think that we should invade Iraq.






30 Responses to “McCain: “Is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that’s depicted?””

  1. Why oh why Says:

    What a maverick.

  2. MikeJ Says:

    And he still doesn’t want to kill bin Laden. Obama will, McCain won’t. A vote for McCain is a vote for bin Laden.

  3. Edward, the mad shirt grinder Says:

    Yes, but 9/11 was still Bill Clinton’s fault.

  4. Professor Booty Says:

    If I don’t see a bastardized form of this quote in Obama ads by the end of the week, and Obama himself doesn’t bring it up in the next debate, then I’m asking for my money back from that campaign. “Is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that’s depicted?” I mean, are you fucking kidding me? Even in 1998, he should have known better.

  5. Tim Says:

    If the Democrat said this it would be prominently featured in an attack ad, with the Four Horsemen riding in the shadow of a mushroom cloud.

    I would say to the Obama campaign: leave this alone. It can only distract from the economy.

  6. bob Says:

    Wait, wait, wait.

    Isn’t McCain decrying MISSION CREEP in that interview?

    It’s sort of like if you invaded a country to get rid of its WMDs.

    In McCain’s words:

    That’s fine. But what’s next?

  7. John McCain: Worse than Bush Says:

    Invade Iraq, Iran, Syria, and elsewhere. Get it straight.

  8. Gabriel Says:

    [ominous chord]

    “Bin Laden strikes. Hundreds are killed, many on U.S. soil. And John McCain’s response?

    ‘Is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that’s depicted?’

    John McCain. Not ready to lead.”

  9. Ringo Meza Says:

    Errrmmmm, just wondering if Jeff Zucker & Co are representative of all your Obamists:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9b0xr06qA

    Because then that would be downright creepy…

  10. Jim Crozier Says:

    Holy crap! Why isn’t that line in every single one of the Obama campaign commercials?

  11. marcj Says:

    McCain’s answer doesn’t count–the question was obviously gotcha!!! journalism.

  12. Owen Says:

    That has got to be the best pic of McCain I’ve ever seen.

  13. Natascha Says:

    What if Obama had said that?

  14. low-tech cyclist Says:

    The Kenya/Tanzania embassy bombings took place on August 7, 1998. This interview took place in mid-September of that year, according to the link.

    If McCain hadn’t known much about bin Laden before August 7, I could see that. But for a guy who boasts about his national security cred to have been talking so ignorantly about bin Laden 5-6 weeks later is really pretty pathetic.

    At a minimum, you’d think that after the embassy bombings, he’d have gotten a staffer to write up a 3-page summary of what we knew about this guy, that he could read on the plane when he got bored with the in-flight magazine.

    And this is his supposed strong suit, his supposed area of expertise.

    Pathetic.

  15. EarBucket Says:

    Oh, Jesus Christ. I knew who bin Laden was in 1998. I remember watching the Denzel Washington movie and thinking that the terrorist sheik character was clearly a fictionalized version of him. And I was 19.

  16. EarBucket Says:

    (The Denzel Washington movie The Siege, that is.)

  17. Brian Schmidt Says:

    This suggests McCain was critical of or opposed to the cruise missile counterstrikes. Is there more info about that somewhere?

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