Matthew Yglesias » Crime Down

Sep 16th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

Crime Down

New FBI report sees a falling level of violent crime. Unfortunately, the decline merely reverses the past two years of increases rather than bringing us below the crime rates we saw early in the 21st century.

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Petey Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Early in the 21st century is now.
msw Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
McCain releases new ad called Enough Is Enough.
The motherfucker is a liar and a thief.
Petey Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
“McCain releases new ad called Enough Is Enough. The motherfucker is a liar and a thief.”

Damn good ad, too. Just the right hits, and just the right tones. If they’re smart enough to put it into heavy play, it should help stop the bleeding McCain’s been enduring over the past 36 hours. And they’ve regularly been smart enough.

Who do you want to answer the 3am call on Wall Street?

I’ll be impressed if Obama can ever figure out how to string together a 1 – 2 punch in the newscycle, which they haven’t been able to do yet in this entire campaign.
msw Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Petey, go fuck a elephant, get syphilis and die.
rupert Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
But as the economy continues to suck, crime will have to rise…… Will rob for food!
Petey Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
“Petey, go fuck a elephant”

No can do.

Donkeys are just so much more sexy.

I’ve flirted with elephants, but i only unzip my pants for donkeys.
El Cid Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Petey, are you trying to not lose more money on InTrade again?
Kolohe Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
the past two years of increases rather than bringing us below the crime rates we saw early in the 21st century.

Citation needed.

Year Violent crime rate
1992 757.7
1993 747.1
1994 713.6
1995 684.5
1996 636.6
1997 611.0
1998 567.6
1999 523.0
2000 506.5
———————————————-
2001 504.5 (doesn’t include 9/11) Early
2002 494.4 21st
2003 475.8 century
———————————————–
2004 463.2
2005 469.0
2006 473.6
2007 466.9

466.9 is less than 475.8-504.5

When Palin or McCain does this it’s called a “Lie”.
Petey Sucks Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
I’ll be impressed if Obama can ever figure out how to string together a 1 – 2 punch in the newscycle, which they haven’t been able to do yet in this entire campaign.

And just think, he STILL managed to beat Hillary in the primary. Just imagine teh possibilities if Obamer didn’t suck so much.

And just imagine the possibilities if Petey stopped wasting his time being a concern troll and starting doing something to help a Dem get elected.
Tony the Tiger Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Does anyone else find it worrisome that the US of A has the highest violent crime rate in the industrialized world (per capita)?

Does anyone else find it worrisome that the US of A has the highest prison incarceration rate in the industrialized world (per capita)?

Anyone know why our country is teh suc in this regard?
Whitey Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
This clearly is tied in with Rudy Giuliani’s presence in the public eye.
mad6798j Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
“And just imagine the possibilities if Petey stopped wasting his time being a concern troll and starting doing something to help a Dem get elected.”

Petey doesn’t want a Democrat to get elected. Why do you think he backed the obvious loser Edwards in the primaries? Or Clinton only after it was impossible for her to win? He doens’t want the Democrats to win.
Swan Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
What about white collar crime?

I guess the statistics on that from 2000-2008 will never be worth that much, since the Bushies were thoroughly covering each other’s backs.

But hey, it’s only your money.
Linus Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Potato(e) crimes on the rise.
Klug Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
In terms of marking the overreach of the “everything in the Bush years sucks and it’s all his fault” meme, this post may be the high water mark.
Whitey Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
In terms of marking the overreach of the “everything in the Bush years sucks and it’s all his fault” meme, this post may be the high water mark.

A spade is a spade is a spade. Crime rates, by definition, don’t lie; it’s a rate of crimes committed in the country during a given period of time. So, these statistics are biased against the Bush administration? Or we shouldn’t talk about how crime rates have gone up during the Bush administration’s tenure, lest we risk such overreach?
Kolohe Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Or we shouldn’t talk about how crime rates have gone up during the Bush administration’s tenure, lest we risk such overreach?

Look at my 7:42 post.

“(Violent) Crime rates have gone up during the Bush administration” is a factually untrue statement.
Ed Marshall Says:
September 17th, 2008 at 1:17 am
Petey doesn’t want a Democrat to get elected. Why do you think he backed the obvious loser Edwards in the primaries? Or Clinton only after it was impossible for her to win? He doens’t want the Democrats to win.

No, just not your democrat. It’s supposed to be a white guy from a southern state with a hawkish foreign policy background. He’s smarter than you, he’s a relic of the Clinton years and it’s his duty to keep you from doing foolish things like messing with the DLC playbook. If that job becomes kind of null and void he’s lost his place in the world. It might also mean that he was never necessary, and that he was acting as an apparatchik for a meaningless ideology for years, and years, and years.

He’s the guy that saved you from Dean. Now he’s the guy that tried in earnest to save you from Obama. He’s hedged his bet somehow that Obama is more conservative than Bill Clinton (this doesn’t make the slightest bit of fucking sense) so even if Obama wins somehow that makes everything a loss.
right Says:
September 17th, 2008 at 7:44 am
466.9 is less than 475.8-504.5

Matt is a little confused by the article I think. While the violent crime rate, as Kolohe points out, is lower than any recent year besides 2004, violent crime in absolute terms, which the article discusses, is higher than it was from 2003-2005. This data can be seen in the second column of Kolohe’s link.

Why the article focuses on the absolute number alone rather than the rate is beyond me–they both seem useful data points.

And by either metric, Matt’s characterization is incorrect. Violent crime is lower in absolute terms than it was from 2000-2002, despite a larger population, and the rate is lower than every year in the past 25 years, except 2004.
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