We are shocked. This totally will become big news which will finally show the Maverick worshiping media that… Aw, who’m I kidding? Who said “lipstick” today?
She’s just practicing for her role as vice president.
And it’s in keeping with her management style. When she was mayor, she tried to shut down rape investigations by making victims pay for rape kits, so she’ll really just use any means necessary.
I just can’t understand whey she’s pro-rapist and McCain is pro-pedophile. Those seem like strange positions for candidates for high office to take.
i’ve noted before that it’s perfectly clear what the mccain team in alaska is doing: they are strongarming anyone and everyone who might sully the purity of the story they’re trying to tell.
Barnhill said issuing subpoenas would violate a clause in the state’s constitution that protects individual reputations from McCarthy-like smear tactics. Alaska became a state in 1959, a few years after hearings led by Wisconsin Senator Joseph McCarthy ruined the careers of many government employees who were accused of having ties to the Communist Party.
This is curious. Surely one big problem with the whole phenomenon loosely known as McCarthyism was that people were being fired from their jobs for capricious and unjust reasons. Seems to me that Troopergate is fundamentally about just such a firing. And yet the lessons of McCarthyism are here being invoked to protect the person who did the firing.
The brother-in-law tasered her ten year-old nephew. End of discussion.
That does sound bad, but not for the reason you all might think. Pedophile sympathizer E. O’Neal is just disappointed that tasering was ALL that Wooten did.
The brother-in-law tasered her ten year-old nephew. End of discussion.
That appears to be entirely true, and I would certainly agree is evidence of a sick individual who should be held accountable.
However, what relevance does it have to Walt Monegan’s firing? How does evidence of Michael Wooten’s deranged character end discussion of whether or not Governor Palin improperly used her office to pursue a personal matter?
Truly, I’m interested in knowing how A leads you to B.
“We have to prevent this because it is going to diminish the reputation of Alaska,” Ramras (a Republican representative who chairs the House Judiciary Committee) said in the Bloomberg article.
I see our resident troll is up on his talking points.
Of course, he fails to mention the boy asked to get a jolt, on the test setting, and did so in a controlled environment. And no complaint was ever made until the day of the divorce. Funny how that works.
Not that it’s relevant of course. Why? Because said trooper was *already punished* for the complaints (almost all of which were frivolous), and the investigation was closed. The abuse of power is not about whatever said trooper may or may not have done, but about Palin firing someone for refusing to settle her personal vendettas. He could have killed his stepson and she still would be guilty of crimes here for wildly overstepping her crimes.
Get it, troll? Emotional appeals don’t change the facts of the situation.
the boy asked to get a jolt, on the test setting, and did so in a controlled environment
Adam, cite? What’s more, I’ve read that AK has an especially strong police union, so that behavior which would’ve gotten any other police fired only warranted a suspension in this case — Palin still overstepped her bounds, yes?
All of the officials had previously agreed to meet with the independent investigator looking into Gov. Palin’s firing of Commissioner Walt Monegan in July.
Toady, I was being slightly flippant about the tasering being the end of the discussion. But if someone had tasered my 10 year-old nephew, I’d want him fired too. If his boss didn’t think so, and also wasn’t too concerned that he had drunk alcohol in his police car and shot a moose illegally, I’d infer that the boss didn’t run a tight ship. If he were my at-will employee I might replace him.
You know damn well she wasn’t upset about that. Nor about the moose (which Palin’s *father* was part of, by the way), or about drinking one beer in a parked police car.
They were all filed along with 20 other frivolous complaints the day the divorce papers were filed. She’s clearly using whatever power she can to fulfill personal vendettas. You’re either being willfully ignorant or purposely misleading, but either way, you should probably find some other blog where such drivel might find more traction.
If he were my at-will employee I might replace him.
You know, I probably would too. Which is one reason I think I’m unsuitable to be, e.g., the head of a corporation or government. Look – I understand the impulse, and empathize with it. But she still abused her power, even if we can understand why.
If he were my at-will employee I might replace him.
Would you also lie about why you did it? If it was such an open and shut case, why’d she lie about it? Why didn’t she just come out and say “damn right I did it, because this guy Wooten is a scumbag and a security threat”? I mean, other than the fact that she’s apparently a congenital liar.
Of course, that’s a rhetorical question. We know E. O’Neal would lie about it. I wouldn’t trust a pedophile sympathizer to be truthful about anything.
In 2003, Wooten, his wife and a friend were moose hunting. Upon spotting a moose, Wooten instructed his wife to shoot the moose since she had the permit, she refused so Wooten did.
After carting the moose back to town, Sarah’s father actually butchered it in his garage, and Wooten shared the meat with both Sarah and Todd Palin as well as her parents. Two years later, during the divorce battle, the family filed a complaint alleging that Wooten had taken that moose illegally. At least they waited until they finished the meat to file the complaint against Wooten.
Thanks for responding, O’Neal. However, I think Harvey Lobster contributes the salient point here. We expect, and require, that public officials be beyond reproach.
Everything I’ve read about this case has indicated to me that Michael Wooten is a scumbag who really had no business wearing a uniform. However, he was investigated and disciplined by his direct superior. That’s the process. It may not seem just, particularly when it involves your sister being victimized. But to coin a phrase, we are a nation of laws, not of patronage and cronyism. Monegan simply pointed out to Governor Palin that her interest in the case was inappropriate due to her personal involvement.
These calls for E. O’Neal to go away really make me cringe. Personally, I’m glad he’s here participating. Think of it as an educational opportunity. We’re not Free Republic, for god’s sake.
Wouldn’t this actually be a risky move by McCain/Palin. Seems like this could easily be portrayed as the same moves Bush would make. How can you be a reformer if you quash investigations?
Thanks, Toady. I like to read the linked articles at Free Republic but rarely read the comments because it’s just an amen chorus. We all benefit from having our opinions challenged. I jokingly call you folks “moonbats”, but I’ve learned a lot since I started posting here. Most of it’s probably wrong, but nevertheless…
What about firing the Wasilla police chief and librarian for failing her ‘gut-feeling’ loyalty test?
While the Wasilla police dept. and library are not the US Justice Dept, Palin was far more brazen and showed worse judgement than Gonzalez. Even most Republicans were disgusted with Gonzalez.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
We are shocked. This totally will become big news which will finally show the Maverick worshiping media that… Aw, who’m I kidding? Who said “lipstick” today?
September 11th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
She’s just practicing for her role as vice president.
And it’s in keeping with her management style. When she was mayor, she tried to shut down rape investigations by making victims pay for rape kits, so she’ll really just use any means necessary.
I just can’t understand whey she’s pro-rapist and McCain is pro-pedophile. Those seem like strange positions for candidates for high office to take.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
It’s like trying to put a dipstick on a prig.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
She had no choice–the investigators were refusing to show her proper “deference”.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
At least Barack and Joe are showing proper deference.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Typical behavior of a cocky wacko.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
i’ve noted before that it’s perfectly clear what the mccain team in alaska is doing: they are strongarming anyone and everyone who might sully the purity of the story they’re trying to tell.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
This is curious. Surely one big problem with the whole phenomenon loosely known as McCarthyism was that people were being fired from their jobs for capricious and unjust reasons. Seems to me that Troopergate is fundamentally about just such a firing. And yet the lessons of McCarthyism are here being invoked to protect the person who did the firing.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
You don’t get it, these crazy attacks just add to Governor Palin’s strength.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Is that what they call in hockey a deke?
September 11th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
You can take the girl out of Alaska, but you can’t take Alaska out of the girl…… oh, sorry, make that lady.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
The brother-in-law tasered her ten year-old nephew. End of discussion.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
The brother-in-law tasered her ten year-old nephew. End of discussion.
That does sound bad, but not for the reason you all might think. Pedophile sympathizer E. O’Neal is just disappointed that tasering was ALL that Wooten did.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
The brother-in-law tasered her ten year-old nephew. End of discussion.
That appears to be entirely true, and I would certainly agree is evidence of a sick individual who should be held accountable.
However, what relevance does it have to Walt Monegan’s firing? How does evidence of Michael Wooten’s deranged character end discussion of whether or not Governor Palin improperly used her office to pursue a personal matter?
Truly, I’m interested in knowing how A leads you to B.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
The brother-in-law tasered her ten year-old nephew. End of discussion.
Which is considered an adventure in Alaska, right?
September 11th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
“We have to prevent this because it is going to diminish the reputation of Alaska,” Ramras (a Republican representative who chairs the House Judiciary Committee) said in the Bloomberg article.
Ohhhh, that’s a good reason.
Good lord.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
I see our resident troll is up on his talking points.
Of course, he fails to mention the boy asked to get a jolt, on the test setting, and did so in a controlled environment. And no complaint was ever made until the day of the divorce. Funny how that works.
Not that it’s relevant of course. Why? Because said trooper was *already punished* for the complaints (almost all of which were frivolous), and the investigation was closed. The abuse of power is not about whatever said trooper may or may not have done, but about Palin firing someone for refusing to settle her personal vendettas. He could have killed his stepson and she still would be guilty of crimes here for wildly overstepping her crimes.
Get it, troll? Emotional appeals don’t change the facts of the situation.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Sorry, last line should read “wildly overstepping her boundaries”.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Since when do Republicans have a problem with that?
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September 11th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Let me play the devil’s advocate.
the boy asked to get a jolt, on the test setting, and did so in a controlled environment
Adam, cite? What’s more, I’ve read that AK has an especially strong police union, so that behavior which would’ve gotten any other police fired only warranted a suspension in this case — Palin still overstepped her bounds, yes?
In any case, another article on Subpoenatroopergate:
September 11th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
The brother-in-law tasered her ten year-old nephew.
The funniest part about the whole is that despite all of this, it was the judge who told Palin that her conduct amounted to child abuse.
Palin: Pro rapist and pro child abuse
McCain: Pro pedophile
Really a couple of sick, sick individuals on that ticket.
September 11th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
By all means, let’s let right wing trolls tell us when it’s “end of discussion”.
Especially when no one can quite clear up why John McCain & the Republican Party are trying to help pedophiles and child molesters.
September 11th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
I’m about to head home, I’ll look for a cite later if I remember. Seen it several places.
Also, in other news, ABCNews.com has a breaking banner: Palin warns war with Russia may be necessary.
Dear God.
September 11th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Toady, I was being slightly flippant about the tasering being the end of the discussion. But if someone had tasered my 10 year-old nephew, I’d want him fired too. If his boss didn’t think so, and also wasn’t too concerned that he had drunk alcohol in his police car and shot a moose illegally, I’d infer that the boss didn’t run a tight ship. If he were my at-will employee I might replace him.
September 11th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Dear Troll,
You know damn well she wasn’t upset about that. Nor about the moose (which Palin’s *father* was part of, by the way), or about drinking one beer in a parked police car.
They were all filed along with 20 other frivolous complaints the day the divorce papers were filed. She’s clearly using whatever power she can to fulfill personal vendettas. You’re either being willfully ignorant or purposely misleading, but either way, you should probably find some other blog where such drivel might find more traction.
September 11th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
If he were my at-will employee I might replace him.
You know, I probably would too. Which is one reason I think I’m unsuitable to be, e.g., the head of a corporation or government. Look – I understand the impulse, and empathize with it. But she still abused her power, even if we can understand why.
September 11th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Would you also lie about why you did it? If it was such an open and shut case, why’d she lie about it? Why didn’t she just come out and say “damn right I did it, because this guy Wooten is a scumbag and a security threat”? I mean, other than the fact that she’s apparently a congenital liar.
Of course, that’s a rhetorical question. We know E. O’Neal would lie about it. I wouldn’t trust a pedophile sympathizer to be truthful about anything.
September 11th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Yeah, that’s another thing a lot of people don’t know. After Wooten shot the moose, he took it to Palin’s dad to clean it and butcher it. Sarah and Todd even made their very own mooseburgers!
In 2003, Wooten, his wife and a friend were moose hunting. Upon spotting a moose, Wooten instructed his wife to shoot the moose since she had the permit, she refused so Wooten did.
After carting the moose back to town, Sarah’s father actually butchered it in his garage, and Wooten shared the meat with both Sarah and Todd Palin as well as her parents. Two years later, during the divorce battle, the family filed a complaint alleging that Wooten had taken that moose illegally. At least they waited until they finished the meat to file the complaint against Wooten.
September 11th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Thanks for responding, O’Neal. However, I think Harvey Lobster contributes the salient point here. We expect, and require, that public officials be beyond reproach.
Everything I’ve read about this case has indicated to me that Michael Wooten is a scumbag who really had no business wearing a uniform. However, he was investigated and disciplined by his direct superior. That’s the process. It may not seem just, particularly when it involves your sister being victimized. But to coin a phrase, we are a nation of laws, not of patronage and cronyism. Monegan simply pointed out to Governor Palin that her interest in the case was inappropriate due to her personal involvement.
These calls for E. O’Neal to go away really make me cringe. Personally, I’m glad he’s here participating. Think of it as an educational opportunity. We’re not Free Republic, for god’s sake.
September 11th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Wouldn’t this actually be a risky move by McCain/Palin. Seems like this could easily be portrayed as the same moves Bush would make. How can you be a reformer if you quash investigations?
September 11th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Thanks, Toady. I like to read the linked articles at Free Republic but rarely read the comments because it’s just an amen chorus. We all benefit from having our opinions challenged. I jokingly call you folks “moonbats”, but I’ve learned a lot since I started posting here. Most of it’s probably wrong, but nevertheless…
September 12th, 2008 at 8:28 am
What about firing the Wasilla police chief and librarian for failing her ‘gut-feeling’ loyalty test?
While the Wasilla police dept. and library are not the US Justice Dept, Palin was far more brazen and showed worse judgement than Gonzalez. Even most Republicans were disgusted with Gonzalez.
Here’s a link on this story again: http://www.adn.com/sarahpalin/story/510219.html
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