Two Become One
I was wondering yesterday how it is that you manage to spend almost $4.7 million on a condo in Phoenix, and the answer turns out to be that the McCains bought two luxury condos and combined them. The $4.66 million figure is the combined price of his cribs. What’s more, at 2211 Camelback you’re not just paying for a swanky pad, you’re getting top-notch amenities like an edgeless rooftop pool and a concierge staff prepared to cater to your every whim:
* Laundry and dry cleaning service with pick-up and delivery
* Personal spa services
* Travel and driver services
* Dining reservations and catering
* Special events tickets
* Shopping services
* Housekeeping and maintenance services
* Pet services, auto detailing, plant care, etc.
* Business services
Amenities aside, though, this is one reason why it’s a bit unfair to tag McCain as out of touch for being unable to remember how many homes he owns. When one of your homes is really a combination of two different luxury condos the metaphysical status of your property comes into question. You’d really need to ask a trained professional mereologist to resolve the issue and can’t expect McCain to speak to it personally.
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August 21st, 2008 at 9:38 am
You took the wrong gig, or perhaps the Obama campaign is too stupid to hire qualified advisors.
August 21st, 2008 at 9:42 am
Metrologist?
August 21st, 2008 at 9:45 am
Be more constructive with your feedback, please – that means you, gregor.
August 21st, 2008 at 9:46 am
What is an “edgeless pool”?
August 21st, 2008 at 9:47 am
I’m glad that your new digs have allowed you to escape the pseudo-journalistic shell within which you were enveloped over at The Atlantic and to reveal your inner attack dog.
Which is to say, I wish the Obama campaign would throw up an ad like this.
Which is to say, more or less, what gregor said.
August 21st, 2008 at 9:50 am
It’s a pool that looks out onto infinite space. There is no decking on at least one side.
http://assets.vacationhomerentals.com/userimg/20561/thumb3_528035-Location_view_4.jpg
August 21st, 2008 at 9:55 am
Sorry, he,McCain was fibbing again or his memory failed.
He does wants to appeal to the common folk and does not want anyone to know that he owns 8 homes. And at least 1 pair of 500.00 loafers. Maybe he got those on sale, or at TJ Maxx but ya know, it’s the image thing.
August 21st, 2008 at 9:57 am
Mereology is a real academic specialty in the philosophy game — not a typo.
August 21st, 2008 at 9:58 am
Florida=Edgeless pool
August 21st, 2008 at 9:59 am
It’s not a matter of houses, but hats.
Where ever you hang your hat is home.
So the question is: Does John McCain have more hats than the average voter?
Our troops only have a couple of hats. Does McCain have more hats than the troops? Is he trying to make the troops jealous?
How many hats does his wife own? She seems the hatty-type.
I would like an official Brim Count.
And I want it now.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:00 am
For those to lazy to google:
You know you wanted to know…
August 21st, 2008 at 10:03 am
I LOLed. Then nodded sagely.
Which is to say, I hope this continues to get more play.
Which is to say, more or less, what NCProsecutor said.
Which is to say, more or less, what Gregor said.
(I believe that an ‘edgeless pool’ is just a declasse way of describing an ‘infinity pool’. They’ve been all the rage in spas and resort hotels in exotic destinations with nice sunsets for the past decade or so, but I think they’re losing their cachet now. Because everybody’s got one.)
August 21st, 2008 at 10:17 am
With timezone differences, and possibly classes to teach, Prof. Paul might not answer for a little while, but let’s see if we can’t work it out. If you buy two homes on adjacent pieces of property, knock them both down, and build one home there, I think it’s fairly clear that it counts as only one home. Similarly, if you buy two adjacent condos and knock any dividing walls down, it becomes one condo. At least for the purposes of answering the question “How many homes do you own?” If they were in unconnected parts of the building, such that you could not go from one to the other without traveling on property you didn’t own, then they’d be two different homes.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:17 am
forget dollar amounts—how many “McCain Points” is that condo worth?
August 21st, 2008 at 10:20 am
Methinks this satirical line will run and run–there is life in it yet. (And why do we have to come here to find it.)
August 21st, 2008 at 10:22 am
well, why doesn’t the water fall out?
August 21st, 2008 at 10:24 am
An edgeless pool, also known as a negative edge pool or an infinity pool is a high-end pool design where the surface of the water hits the lip of the pool. It’s an elegant effect, used in the most exclusive homes. It’s a feature for those where money is no object.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:33 am
It’s a pool that looks out onto infinite space.
Kinda like the inside of McCain’s skull, in other words.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:38 am
The value for McCain of owning such luxury digs should not be underestimated, because McCain, while contemplating the quantum mysteries of the edgeless pool, devised his “edgeless timetable” conception for the US presence in Iraq.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:39 am
dukej,
There is a weir on the “missing” end of the pool which controls flow out of the pool (the weir comes up to just a little under the intended level of the main pool), and a catch basin below the weir. The water flowing over the weir is then pumped from the catch basin back into the main pool. Basically, it is like a giant garden fountain.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:40 am
By the way, a house count question ought to come up during the debates, right?
August 21st, 2008 at 11:01 am
skiddie Says:
Only if you define “everyone” to mean everyone with a 7+ figure income.
August 21st, 2008 at 11:12 am
Why doesn’t McCain know how many homes he owns? Is it because he is senile? And this story does fit in with a pattern we’ve seen. McCain’s credit card debt and property tax defaults paint a picture of an entitled old fool who doesn’t know how to manage, or keep track of, his married-into wealth.
August 21st, 2008 at 11:14 am
…and Obama’s up with an ad about this already! Cripes, that was fast!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/21/11243/9384/785/571780
August 21st, 2008 at 11:24 am
Edgeless pool = waterfall
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
August 21st, 2008 at 11:27 am
The Kennedy family owned a compound. Not just a couple of houses. They owned a compound. That’s what I’ve always wanted when I became rich. McCain only owns a compounded condo. He must seethe when he thinks about how low rent he is.
August 21st, 2008 at 11:53 am
In other words, it’s above his pay grade.
August 21st, 2008 at 11:56 am
Much like McCain’s theory of quantum conflict, his houses remarkably demonstrate quantum-mechanical properties in macroscopic states. In this case, the houses are clearly Bose-Einstein condensates: “In summary, in a Bose-Einstein condensate, the individual bosons become indistinguishable.”
Normal houses are fermionic, and thus incapable of occupying the same space at the same time. However, McCain’s properties have overlapping waveforms, making it impossible to separate individual addresses from the collective condensate.
August 21st, 2008 at 11:57 am
Maybe John needs to use the pool to soothe the aches and pains from being tortured.
How odd that our politicians lead double lives… Maverick must equal gambler!
August 21st, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Another Helmsly-McCain house, via link from TPM at Architectural Digest (which is, I believe, the magazine that features the homes of celebrities!)
http://www.architecturaldigest.com/homes/features/archive/mccain_slideshow_072005?showall=true
August 21st, 2008 at 12:03 pm
One wonders what the maintenance (condo association) fees are on such a conspicuous consumption. That, all by itself, would set McCain apart from most Americans….I’m willing to bet that it’s more than most people’s rent/mortgage.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:06 pm
What If John Was One Of Us
If John was revealed, what would we see
And would Brian Williams tell you
If he were faced with John without John’s baloney
What would he ask if he had just one question
And yeah yeah John is great yeah yeah John is good
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
What if John was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Not some straight-shooter on a bus
Trying to weasel his way home
If John was revealed what would he look like
And would you want to see
If seeing meant that you would have to believe
In things like endless needless thoughtless brainless war
And yeah yeah John is great yeah yeah John is good
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
What if John was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Not some straight-shooter on a bus
Trying to weasel his way home
He’s trying to weasel his way home
Back up to claim that white house throne
Three AM callers on the phone
But in John’s head there’s no one home
And yeah yeah John is great yeah yeah John is good
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
What if John was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Not some straight-shooter on a bus
Trying to weasel his way home
Just trying to weasel his way home
Like the anointed George Bush clone
Back up to claim the white house throne
Just trying to weasel his way home
Back up to claim that white house throne
But in John’s head there’s no one home
August 21st, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Oh, the horror. The McCains are wealthy! Let us all cut outselves with sharp rocks and cry woe!
Or, we could just point to that whole American dream thing that says that if you want to be so rich in America that you can own more houses than you can immediately recall, you’re free to do so. Used to be that success was an admirable quality.
So, is this what’s happened to the issues-based debate the left wanted during this Presidential campaign or was that all a load of manure?
August 21st, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Yes, but what, mereologically speaking, are the parts of the experience of an edgeless pool?
August 21st, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Jimmie wrote,
I happen to agree that success is an admirable quality. But I’m not certain that saying “I Do” is a measure of a man’s success. Nor does the simple act of being born make one “successful,” in the case of Cindy McCain.
Nice try, though.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Funny thing about mereology — if you take all the parts of McCain’s platform and put them all together, you still don’t have a proper whole.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I’m so sick of all the baseless propoganda about mccain. One important fact, look it up. (if you are too lazy to google, well, go ahead and flame on)
1) After his FIFTH lost plane in service (shot down), and about 20 hours in country flight time, he was pretty busted up. He spent a short time in normal custody before being moved into VIP hospital because he was AN ADMIRALS SON. aka not likely to be tortured.
so all the rhetoric about how he was tortured, about how he was a military man, about how he’s non-elitist. malarkey. Here’s a guy who crashes 4, four aircraft, 2 his own fault, before even BEING incountry. DOES NOT get kicked out because of daddy and grandpa. Then 20 hours in, is shot down, volunteers who he is to continue his special treatment in a VIP hospital, then makes a run for the president by distorting this stuff.
I just wish democrats would “swift boat” mccain. Alot easier target.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:35 pm
So, is this what’s happened to the issues-based debate the left wanted during this Presidential campaign or was that all a load of manure?
No, this is a response to the Camp McCain’s decision to treat voters like infants and campaign via character assassination.
I do believe that Senator Obama said that he’d bring the gun to the knifefight.
This is the first shot out of the barrel.
Duck, motherf#*!er
August 21st, 2008 at 12:36 pm
This is not wealthy Jimmie; this is obscen. Seven homes, $500 shoes, private jets. This guy was born on third base — we don’t need another one of these clowns managing our country.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:37 pm
I used to have an infinity pool. Back when my apartment’s bathtub would regularly clog up. That proves that McCain and I are both “regular people”, as Chris Matthews puts it.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:40 pm
So its safe to say this is why McCain like’s Abba so much — because they’ve had free tickets to Mama Mia from their condo arrangement
August 21st, 2008 at 12:41 pm
It’s not that McCain is a wealthly man. It is that he attempts to present himself as “one of us.” He is so out touch with financial reality it is mind numbing. 5 mil is rich? He has no clue how many homes he owns. Supports Bush tax cuts for the rich but votes against Vet benefits, GI Bill, homeowner assistance, etc. He is the worst of the worst. He is loaded, but has no compassion or desire to help ordinary Americans.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:47 pm
So, is this what’s happened to the issues-based debate the left wanted during this Presidential campaign or was that all a load of manure?
Just like it wasn’t McCain’s fault, acc. to Bobo, that he had to turn his side of the campaign into a load of manure, it’s not our fault that we are finally responding in kind. I seem to recall hundreds of stories about how Kerry married into his wealth from the Heinz fortune and liked windsurfing like some poncy richie rich. I seem to recall incessant carping about how much Edwards’s haircuts cost (and those of WJC before him). I seem to recall a slew of stories about how un-murikan it was for Obama to go on vacation in Hawaii (as opposed to brush clearing on a mega-million $$ ranch he bought as a campaign accessory). So maybe, just MAYBE we all are getting a little sick of playing by one set of rules while your side plays by another. Or to put it another way: eat shit and die, rightwing elitist.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:51 pm
August 21st, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Used to be that success was an admirable quality.
FAIL, but thank you for playing.
Used to be that success was an admirable quality [unless you're talking about a Democrat. Then it proves you're An Awful Elitist Hypocrite].
There, fixed it for you.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:14 pm
I’ve gone skinnydipping in that edgeless pool. It is, indeed, pretty swanky.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pm
David Eoll wrote:
Surely that includes everyone who matters. Right? Right?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:45 pm
An edgeless pool? How do they keep the water in?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:48 pm
I really should have read all the comments before I posted mine…
Right, dukej?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pm
The McCains to me look like white trash with cash and not exactly the sort of noblesse oblige we would want running this country. They don’t actually have a purpose greater than self. That is why we see all the tacky and garish displays of wealth. That is why we see their inability to stay away from personal corruption. When McCain was involved with the Charles Keating scandal and running interference from regulators it was to protect the personal investments of Cindy McCain and her father with Charles Keating. That is why when we look at Cindy McCain’s supposed charitable endeavors they reek of self-purpose – either to get her off the hook for her drug problems or to make John look good in his political career. The lies (Mother Theresa!) and the self-touting (only I had the courage and judgment to support the surge!) are troublesome insights on the McCains’ character. It is sad that this is the best the Republicans could come up with.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Bingo
August 21st, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Has anyone noticed that Karl Rove’s description of Obama as the guy leaning against the wall of the country club with the beautiful girl on his arm making snide comments about everyone he comes in contact with is actually the description of John McCain to a T? Country club. Check. Beautiful girl. Check. Snide comments. Check. What’s up with that?
August 21st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Rove Rule #2: Always accuse the other guy of doing what you’re doing.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:41 pm
s this what’s happened to the issues-based debate the left wanted during this Presidential campaign or was that all a load of manure?
Oh, please. Go and tell it to Arse of Spuds and the other maroons on your blogroll.
The issue is that Scrooge McDuck could lose a handful of houses and still have a roof over his head, while most Americans are a health emergency away from the shitter.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Want to bet that some of the employees delivering the swank benefits may be less than full American citizens? Seems like this might be a problem for a Republican candidate, no? Wait, forgot, IOKIYAR.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
And what exactly is wrong with owning more than one home?
If asked, I’ll bet every “average” American would probably gladly trade spots with him.
August 21st, 2008 at 3:33 pm
So, is this what’s happened to the issues-based debate the left wanted during this Presidential campaign or was that all a load of manure?
Not sure, I’m guessing that died around the time that McCain released that Britney Spears/Paris Hilton ad.
August 21st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
I’m not saying John McCain knows he is going to heaven, but he just bought a condo there.
To be fair, he also owns some investment property in pergatory, and has a villa by the lake of fire in hell.
August 21st, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Well this is obviously an opinionated rant site.
Facts just get in the way of feelings.
John Kerry’s houses?
The Kennedy’s Houses?
Al Gore’s house and energy consumption?
John Edwards’ housing and energy consumption?
Rezco housing assistance?
Lou Dobbs’ financial questions?
Obama’s brother living in a slum? Family Compassionate?
Worst than reading the above comments, is the stuttering of Obama as he continues to restate his restatements.
fp: August 21st, 2008 at 3:33 pm – How correct – manure.
Candidate housing is a pathetic political issue. A rather immature attempt at Obama oneupmanship.
August 21st, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Picture of an infinity pool
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Infinitypool.jpg
August 21st, 2008 at 4:53 pm
ApplyCS, you make a fair point. That laundry list makes it pretty clear that you were one of those ranting and raving over John Kerry’s spreads and John Edwards’ haircuts.
In that case, I imagine that you’ve already ruled out McCain as the candidate you’ll vote for. I take it you’re a Bob Barr guy?
It’s hysterical watching this House Attack grow legs and take on a viral stance, and it’s about time that the GOP swallowed some of its own medicine. It’s also clear it’s rattled the McCain Camp… to the point they played the POW Card in defense again. And cursed.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:07 pm
JenJen,
Just how many cards are in the political deck?
Now to the real serious stuff.
Bob Barr is to far into the ACLU so I’ll just write in Roseanne Barr.
We could retire the debt by pay-per-view airing of cabinet meeting as a reality government program – CSPAN is too dry. Hey hey, she could sing the national anthem for openers accompanied by Slick Willy on the saxs. But more, I would like to see her negotiate with Mahmoud Imanutjob. How would she look in a burqa? Better me thinks.
Parting thought Pelosi, Reid, and Barr the never ending story – continuing coverage by Couric, Williams [BriWi], and Gibson. Ratings just have to go up!
Thank you, Thank you, I’ll be here all week.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:14 pm
ApplyCS, you’re writing in Roseanne Barr? Works for me!! How we all adore principled conservatives such as yourself.
Hopefully you’re in Ohio!
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:27 am
My personal favorite essay in mereology is Richard Cartwright’s “Scattered Objects”. If the Big Dipper- eight stars scattered about the night sky- counts as one constellation, then is it not only fair and reasonable to count all those scattered houses owned by the McCains as one home?
August 22nd, 2008 at 10:54 am
With McCain trying to explain that he merely owns ten houses or so–the exact number he can’t recall–the ultility of having a mereologist to assist him is obvious
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:13 pm
An edgeless pool has a very this edge at the waterline that’s designed to have the thinnest possible line at the horizon, and as smooth a surface as possible to reflect the sky. In most light, on most days, it seems there’s no horizon at all.
Kind of like McCain’s version of Iraq…
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