Matt Yglesias

Aug 20th, 2008 at 8:44 am

Labor’s Phantom Opposition to Health Care Mandates

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It’s no surprise that I found Ron Brownstein’s article mostly lamenting the highly partisan and polarized nature of recent political campaigns to be full of things that struck me as false equivalence. After all, I’m a non-credible partisan hack so that’s how I would see things. On the other hand, I was surprised to read this criticism of Obama:

[Obama] has ruffled some feathers by emphasizing personal responsibility in the African American community, and in July he infuriated the liberal “netroots” by voting for a congressional deal that provided legal immunity to telecommunications companies that had cooperated with Bush’s program of warrantless wiretapping after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. But little of his agenda departs from conventional Democratic preferences. Initially he declared that to stabilize Social Security, “everything should be on the table,” including benefit cuts, but he’d renounced that position by last September. He has similarly diluted his earlier support for merit pay for teachers. He pointedly refused to join Hillary Clinton and John Edwards in crossing organized labor to propose requiring individuals to buy health insurance—though such a requirement is probably the key to a deal with the health-insurance industry for universal coverage.

About a trillion pixels have been spilled within progressive circles about Barack Obama’s refusal to endorse an individual health insurance mandate, and this is the first time I’ve heard anyone suggest that the issue here is that John Edwards and Hillary Clinton were “crossing organized labor” whereas Obama was kowtowing to their demands. On the contrary, it’s mostly been the reverse with Edwards and Clinton in line with the labor liberal orthodoxy and Obama, for better or for worse, bucking it.






26 Responses to “Labor’s Phantom Opposition to Health Care Mandates”

  1. elle loco Says:

    OMG: accusing Bush of lying us into the Iraq war is the equivalent of Swift Boating? WTF??? It’s so sad. Brownstein is a really, really sharp observer, but he seems to have fallen into what we might call the Dana Milbank syndrome. Maybe dinged by a couple of excitable bloggers, perhaps he’s decided, Screw you all–I am so going to equivocate and be Broderistic, because you can’t be right about the big picture if you’re wrong and mean about something or other I wrote! This is a descent into late-Hellenistic sophistry and is a prescription for morbid mediocrity in the media and in cultural criticism.

  2. Reality Man Says:

    Cue Petey calling organized labor a bunch of trust-fund scumbags in 3…2…1…

  3. Petey Says:

    “About a trillion pixels have been spilled within progressive circles about Barack Obama’s refusal to endorse an individual health insurance mandate, and this is the first time I’ve heard anyone suggest that the issue here is that John Edwards and Hillary Clinton were “crossing organized labor”

    Indeed.

    I thought that passage was pretty damn weird.

  4. Petey Says:

    “Cue Petey calling organized labor a bunch of trust-fund scumbags in 3…2…1…”

    The fact that I’m in favor of the Labor-Left is precisely why I’m so luke-warm about an Obama administration.

    The last time the Democratic Party had a “post-partisan” nominee, we ended up with the Carter administration, whose “post-partisan” economic policies led pretty directly to the Reagan administration’s assault on the left.

  5. Reality Man Says:

    The last time the Democratic Party had a “post-partisan” nominee, we ended up with the Carter administration, whose “post-partisan” economic policies led pretty directly to the Reagan administration’s assault on the left.

    That’s really what brought us Reagan? Not the Carter administration’s inability to manage the Iranian hostage crisis, not the fact the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan happened on his watch, not the fact that his talk of conservation (wearing sweaters, etc.) looked weak in an age before people even knew what that meant, not the fact a lot of his persona seemed silly (from complaining about “killer rabbits,” claiming to see a UFO and his brother embarrassing him and the nation with his antics and his crappy beer), not the fact a lot of people thought Reagan was charismatic? It was the fact he tried to be “post-partisan”? Do you really believe the crap you write?

  6. DMonteith Says:

    R-Man,

    Well, now that you’ve gone and disagreed with Petey, I suppose I should congratulate you on your new trust fund. You scumbag.

  7. Grand Moff Texan Says:

    Meanwhile, Matt, just look what the AFL-CIO has to say about McCain plan to put a new tax on your healthcare benefits:

    McCain is pledging “no new taxes,” but his own health care plan might represent a massive tax increase for working families, according to the Tax Policy Center and the Kaiser Family Foundation.
     
    [C]onsider McCain’s health care proposal. He says he would treat employer-sponsored health benefits as taxable income, while giving individuals a tax credit for the insurance they buy. On its own, taxing employer insurance just like wages would be a huge tax increase—OMB estimates in the neighborhood of $1 trillion from 2009–2013.
     
    For union members with good health care plans, the tax increase would be even bigger. An employee whose health benefits are worth $15,000 would have to pay taxes on an extra $15,000 in income.

     
    McCain’s plan theoretically compensates for this tax hike by offering tax credits for workers to pay for their health care. Unfortunately, according to studies by the Kaiser Family Foundation, these tax credits would cover less than half of the average cost of a health insurance premiummeaning employers would have less incentive to cover their employees, pushing workers out of employer-based systems and into the private insurance market.

  8. Petey Says:

    “That’s really what brought us Reagan? … It was the fact he tried to be “post-partisan?”

    Well, Carter’s “post-partisan” schtick is what brought us Reaganomics.

    Carter’s insistence on standing in opposition to the Democratic coalition on a wide variety of economic issues helped to legitimize the opposition to the New Deal consensus. That legitimization is what enabled Reagan’s legislative successes.

    I believe that’s a more reasonable historical reading than blaming it on killer rabbits.

    Why do you think General Electric is so enthusiastic about getting Obama into office? If you want to destroy popular social insurance programs, you need to a Democrat to weaken them before you can get a Republican to destroy them.

  9. Grand Moff Texan Says:

    Is this comment “awaiting moderation,” too? If so, why?

    Why is my comment on McCain’s new tax on healthcare benefits “awaiting moderation”?
    .

  10. Petey Says:

    “Is this comment “awaiting moderation,” too?”

    No. The fact that we can read it indicates it’s not “awaiting moderation”.

    “Why is my comment on McCain’s new tax on healthcare benefits “awaiting moderation”?

    Because it’s off-topic. McCain’s tax policies are irrelevant to Brownstein’s bizarre assertion that’s Obama’s defective healthcare policy is pro-union.

    CAP has an automated Germaneness Filter™ that can determine whether or not a comment is off-topic to the thread.

  11. Grand Moff Texan Says:

    Ah, I see it’s out of moderation.

    McCain’s tax policies are irrelevant to Brownstein’s bizarre assertion that’s Obama’s defective healthcare policy is pro-union.

    No, they’re not irrelevant when the AFL-CIO is pointing out that they’re taxes on healthcare benefits that are not offset like the McCain campaign says they will be.

    And we’ve already established that Brownstein is an idiot.
    .

  12. Alan in SF Says:

    Pro-union or anti, there are only two possible outcomes to Obama’s health care policy:

    1) Four years from now, health insurance will be more expensive in real dollars than it is today and fewer people will be insured.

    2) I forget the other.

  13. Reality Man Says:

    Carter’s insistence on standing in opposition to the Democratic coalition on a wide variety of economic issues helped to legitimize the opposition to the New Deal consensus. That legitimization is what enabled Reagan’s legislative successes.

    Actually, Reagan was quite smart in attacking the Great Society while avoiding direct arguments against the New Deal. You are conflating a lot of issues. He knew trying to wreck Social Security would wreck his political career. Reagan didn’t win on Reaganomics in 1980, he won on national security. He didn’t win on Reaganomics in 1984, but on the fact that was one of the only two good economic years of his presidency (after all, the Federal Reserve tends to follow looser monetary policy when Republicans are up for re-election and tighter policy when Democrats are) and Mondale was a braindead campaigner. Reaganomics was more something pushed through the back door while Americans were lathering themselves into a fury over Khomeini.

    Why do you think General Electric is so enthusiastic about getting Obama into office?

    Too bad General Electric isn’t as enthusiastic about making sure you take your meds. You know you sound like a conspiracy theorist nutbag when you write this crap, right?

  14. Reality Man Says:

    Well, now that you’ve gone and disagreed with Petey, I suppose I should congratulate you on your new trust fund. You scumbag.

    Great. Now I can afford to pay for my enforced health care mandate.

  15. Petey Says:

    “You know you sound like a conspiracy theorist nutbag when you write this crap (about General Electric), right?”

    I really don’t care how the nescient read me as long as I’m correct on the history and the facts.

    If you’re not aware of the central role General Electric has played in shaping the American political discourse over the past sixty years, I think that says more about you than about me. Some folks know who Lemuel Boulware and Jack Welch are, and some don’t.

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