Say what you will about Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, but he has an impressive ability to stay on message, blaming the Jews for Georgia’s defeat at the hands of the Russian military:
Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah on Thursday asserted that “failed” Israeli generals had caused Georgia’s defeat in its current war with Russia.
“Israel exported failed generals in order to train the Georgian armed forces, including general Gal Hirsch, and we all know that the Georgian army was defeated by the Russian forces,” Nasrallah said in a speech to mark two years since the end of the Second Lebanon War.
I feel like the substantial size gap between enormous Russia and tiny Georgia may have played a larger role here, along with what looks to have been daft decision-making from the political leaders in Tbilisi.
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August 16th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
That’s funny. Blame the Jews when the real reason for the Georgian defeat is clearly the tax increases legislated there this year.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
These people are as silly as the Fundamentalist-conservative Christians and the neocons.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Haha. He sounds like a Republican.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Anyway, it’s important to remember that even though a guy like this says stupid things sometimes, that doesn’t have to do with opposing civil liberties violations of other people– arresting people on too little ground, too-invasive or even abusive detention, and too-extensie surveillance on too little ground. The people who get investigated and imprisoned are people too, even if they come from a conservative Muslim background, and the only thing that justifies or doesn’t justify that sort of treatment is whether it actually catches criminals, or is overbroad.
And this is all totally beside the possibility that something like FISA or the NSA information-gathering programs we’ve heard about might really be pretenses to gather information on Americans in general who disagree with Republicans.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
I wonder what the Lebanese feel about the “disproportionate response” rhetoric coming from the U.S. administation.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Of course he didn’t blame the Jews, he blamed the IDF. As someone who is the victim of the neocon and zionist trick of conflating all criticism of Israel with anti-semitism, you would think Matt would be sensitive to this sort of distinction.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Honestly, I made a similar observation, if less informed.
Basically, this is not an anti-Semitic remark but simply boasting about the superior quality of their “product”. In the future, Georgians should hire Hezbollah experts. Or go straight to Iran.
The ratio of manpower etc. between Hezbollah and IDF was no better then in the case of Georgia and Russia, where it was reported as 4. The ratio for airforce was worse than 4, but Hezbollah had totally inadequate air defenses, and Georgians could actually shot down some Russians.
Georgian strategy was clearly very, very deficient, and individual training? Who knows.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Wait. I thought MY blamed the neocons, and that blaming neocons is the same thing as blaming jews. Where’s the disagreement here?
August 16th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Actually, if Georgia had invited Hezbollah rather than Israel ( or the United States )as a military adviser. it might be better off.
After all, Hezbollah successfully repelled a conventional, high tech Israeli attack; while Georgia quickly succumbed to a high tech Russian attack.
The military writer, H. John Poole, has written a series of books describing the the sort of irregular tactics Hezbollah, and others, have deployed.
To make a long story short, they are a souped up version of the Japanese defense on Iwo Jima.
Which would make a lot more sense for a small country like Georgia than attempting to go toe to toe ( or tank to tank ) with Russia.
August 16th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Given that Russian armor had to come across the 16,000 foot Caucasus Mountains, you would have thought the Georgians would have done a better job of interdiction in the mountains.
Tank convoys are toast on steep mountainsides and narrow mountain roads. You blow up the lead tank with remote-controlled mines, then the rear tank and they’re trapped. Then you start rolling barrels of Fu-gas down on the convoy (hillbilly napalm consisting of gasoline with soap chips or Styrofoam added.) If they come out of their tanks, your deer hunting snipers shoot their heads off.
Fucking civilian militia could have stopped them for days –instead, the Georgian military were lying there with their legs spread. You never want to let armor get into your level plains –then you’re toast.
And being surprised is the sign of incompetence — the Georgian government should have known the location of every Russian military unit within 50 miles of the border. What are spies for?
Looks like our puppet is a loudmouth incompetent. But when you recruit a New York Lawyer, what do you expect?
August 16th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
In any case, the Georgians should have hired the Slovenians as advisers.
August 16th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
So, as nuts as Nasrallah is, is there any truth to his statement that Israeli generals were aiding the Georgians?
You have to admit, the decision by Georgia to invade South Ossetia in response to the militias’ provocations (which were going on for a long time but never elicited this response before) bears some resemblance to the decision by Israel to respond to Hezbollah’s capture of those soldiers to launch a country-wide campaign against Lebanon.
And, oh yeah, they were both egged on by this administration and their neoconservative buddies.
August 16th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
1) As I’ve noted, the strong Israeli-Saakashvili ties are partially business-related: Israel is on the other side of the big Chevron pipeline running through Georgia.
Plans are for the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline to really become the Baki-Tbilisi-Ceyhan-Eliat pipeline (although they don’t advertise that among the Islamic tribes of Central Asia). Israel’s Red Sea Eliat port can handle 300,000 ton tankers — the Egyptian Suez can only accommodate 150,000 ton tankers at best.
2) But the money men who funded Saakashvili’s Rose Revolution are Jewish. Oligarch Badri Patarkatsishvili –chased out of Russia by Putin.
Although Badri recently died after a falling out with Saakashvili — a death foretold months in advance by a Georgian offical
See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1578596/Badri-Patarkatsishvili.html
And George Soros –who is usually on the other side of the Neocons.
Plus the US National Endowment for Democracy –funded by the US Congress — shoveled a bunch of money in –although the US News Media has now lost all memory of that.
Of course, some unkind people like Pat Buchanan have noted that the US Congress is largely Israeli-occupied territory.
August 16th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
And so Nasrallah shows us that trolling isn’t just for online posters.
August 16th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Israeli armaments and Isreli military advisors WERE at play in Georgia. Looks like Nasrallah is a whole lot closer to the mark than you’d like him to be, Matthew. The neocons must love having so useful a “left” flank.
August 16th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Georgia’s big mistake was in not hiring the million-strong Kagan family to defeat the Russians by bombarding them with an unstoppable barrage of foreign policy papers.
August 16th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
“I feel like the substantial size gap between enormous Russia and tiny Georgia may have played a larger role here”
I’d agree, but neither of us share the Muslim worldview that Nasrallah has. To Muslims, all events in the world occur by the will of Allah. Human beings are merely the means through which Allah expresses His will. Because Allah is all-powerful, He can easily grant victory to an outnumbered force, if He so wills it. So for Muslims, the backing of Allah can overcome a strategic disadvantage. In this worldview, Georgia did indeed lose because Allah chose not to favor them.
I’m not endorsing this worldview by any means. But Nasrallah’s audience is primarily Muslim people that do share this worldview. It may sound silly to us, but not to his audience.
August 16th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
What Mr. Don Williams and the other Israel bashers fail to appreciate is that, had the Russians faced the type of resistance in Georgia that the Israelis faced in Lebanon, they would not have shown even remotely the same restraint. The Russian army and air force would have applied Hama Rules and wouldn’t have cared a lick how many people they killed. Anybody who doubts this should look at what happened in Chechnya. Hopefully, in the next engagement between Hizbollah and the IDF, the latter will take off the gloves and apply Hama Rules without restraint.
August 16th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
had the Russians faced the type of resistance in Georgia that the Israelis faced in Lebanon, they would not have shown even remotely the same restraint.
What else could Israel do to Lebanon? They blew up half the country! Olmert said that: “The claim that we lost is unfounded. Half of Lebanon is destroyed; is that a loss?” All I can think is they could threw a nuke in there and just kept a stiff upper lip about the fallout drifting south. Is that what you have in mind, or is there some sincere strategic thought behind the mindless dreck you repeat over and over?
August 16th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
SLC: You are so cute with your little obsessive/ compulsive re-quotation of the phrase “Hama Rules”. It’s always nice to see it still possesses you.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Anything anyone makes fun of him for, he will repeat.
The “Israel basher” is for me, “Hamas Rules” is for you.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Matt,
That picture kinda looks like you with a longer beard and a few more years.
You might have a CIA career ahead of you that you never considered.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Fostert said: To Muslims, all events in the world occur by the will of Allah.
The idea that all events occur by the will of God is not exclusive to Muslims. It seems to say as much in the Lord’s Prayer and I believe there is such reference as well in the Old Testament.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
“Hopefully, in the next engagement between Hizbollah and the IDF, the latter will take off the gloves and apply Hama Rules without restraint.”
Without disputing validity of this sentiment, (”hopefully”? this is what we HOPE for?), I must say that (a) it is not rare, (b) I cannot fathom why Russians locate the talk about “proportionality” in “you surely jest” category. Those Slavic minds are inscrutable.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Re Ed Marshall and El Cid
The problem is that the IAF wasted most of its bombs on strategic targets in the Beirut area, using mostly precision munitions. This accomplished exactly nothing. What it should have done is carpet bombed the area south of the Litani river and made a parking lot out of it. Instead, it allowed the Hizbollah terrorists to hide in villages there surrounded by the civilian population and declined to bomb those villages. Yet another example of the improper use of air power in warfare. I would guarantee Mr. Marshall and Mr. El Cid that the Russians would not have hesitated for an instant to make a parking lot out of Georgia if that became necessary, just as Hafaz Assad showed no hesitation in bombarding the City of Hama for 2 days and 2 nights in 1982, killing in excess of 20,000 people, most of them civilians. Hopefully, then the time comes to bomb Irans’ nuclear facilities, no such restraint will be shown.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Re Joe’s question “So, as nuts as Nasrallah is, is there any truth to his statement that Israeli generals were aiding the Georgians? ”
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Er.. look at who is Georgia’s Minister of Defense:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davit_Kezerashvili
I don’t know how he is going to explain this to his mother.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Instead, it allowed the Hizbollah terrorists to hide in villages there surrounded by the civilian population and declined to bomb those villages.
They did not. They bombed hospitals and banks and such under the “hijacked by Hezbollah” excuse. If you will bomb a hospital, you will bomb a village. This is entirely in your head.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
The Iraqi insurgents make a mockery of the neocons “cakewalk”. Hezbollah makes the Israelis look worthless and stupid. And, the Russians demonstrate what the AEI-led Georgians what they can do with their “democracy”. “The arc of the Universe bends towards Justice.” (Martin Luther King)
August 16th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Maybe so, SLC, but it’s your fetish, not the world’s, that every real or imaginable harsh military response in the universe becomes “Hama Rules.” Just thinking about it gets you all excited with fantasies of things you want Israel to do. That’s why your adorable little “Hama Rules” tic is less like a simple argument that provocation X might lead to response Z, and why it’s more like a sexual fetish.
August 16th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
“The idea that all events occur by the will of God is not exclusive to Muslims.”
Very true, but the sentiment seems to be much stronger in Islam. When I’ve traveled in Muslim cultures, I have always felt the need to express my thoughts in terms of Allah’s will. I have never felt a similar need in non-Muslim cultures. And the sentiment is expressed much more clearly in the Quran than in the Bible.
August 16th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
For the record:
Tomer (alias), formerly a soldier of an elite IDF unit, returned from Georgia a short while ago. He was enlisted by Defensive Shield, a company owned and operated by Brigadier General (Res.) Gal Hirsch, to help train Georgian soldiers for battle, but returned disappointed in the manner in which the company handles secret army material.
Hizbullah Leader
Nasrallah: Georgia lost because of Israel / Roee Nahmias
In speech marking two-year anniversary of Second Lebanon War, Hizbullah secretary-general mocks Israeli political, military leadership: ‘Gal Hirsch was defeated in Lebanon, and now lost the war for Georgia’
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Hirsch’s company was responsible for training an elite search and rescue unit, and training was handled by the companies of two other reserve officers, all of which hired ex-soldiers like Tomer. This resulted in hundreds of former IDF soldiers working as trainers in Georgia over the past few months.
Tomer said he and his friends had at first received guidelines for the handling of covert material, listing what they could and couldn’t tell Georgian soldiers about IDF activities. But in actuality, he said, the Georgians were told top secret information.
“When I arrived in the operations room I saw a book of IDF safety instructions that shouldn’t have been there,” he said. “There were IDF CDs that explicitly said, ‘Confidential’ documenting army activities, charts from special units’ operations, and officers’ names.” He added that the room was not guarded, making this information easily obtainable to everyone.
Tomer said the main reason for the infidelity was mercenary. “The training companies wanted to finish the projects as quickly as possible in order to create more projects and make more money,” he said. “We knew the training had to be completed quickly because the soldiers would soon have to get into real military activity.”
He added that the Georgian officers told their soldiers they would be going to help NATO forces in Iraq, while the real objective was Ossetia and Abkhazia.
According to Tomer, Gal Hirsch came to visit the trainers now and then, but was mostly absent. And when the training was officially over, Tomer did not feel that his soldiers were ready for war. “By Israeli standards, the soldiers had almost zero capability and the officers were mediocre,” he said. “It was clear that taking that army to war was illogical.”
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3583278,00.html
August 16th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
C’mon, Matt, you know as well as I do that the Israeli press has been full of articles on the Israeli Connection to the Georgian-Russian war. For example, YNetNews’ article “War in Georgia: The Israeli connection” by Arie Egozi said:
” The fighting which broke out over the weekend between Russia and Georgia has brought Israel’s intensive involvement in the region into the limelight. This involvement includes the sale of advanced weapons to Georgia and the training of the Georgian army’s infantry forces. …
” Israel began selling arms to Georgia about seven years ago following an initiative by Georgian citizens who immigrated to Israel and became businesspeople.
” “They contacted defense industry officials and arms dealers and told them that Georgia had relatively large budgets and could be interested in purchasing Israeli weapons,” says a source involved in arms exports.
” The military cooperation between the countries developed swiftly. The fact that Georgia’s defense minister, Davit Kezerashvili, is a former Israeli who is fluent in Hebrew contributed to this cooperation.
” “His door was always open to the Israelis who came and offered his country arms systems made in Israel,” the source said. “Compared to countries in Eastern Europe, the deals in this country were conducted fast, mainly due to the defense minister’s personal involvement.”
” Among the Israelis who took advantage of the opportunity and began doing business in Georgia were former Minister Roni Milo and his brother Shlomo, former director-general of the Military Industries, Brigadier-General (Res.) Gal Hirsch and Major-General (Res.) Yisrael Ziv.
” Roni Milo conducted business in Georgia for Elbit Systems and the Military Industries, and with his help Israel’s defense industries managed to sell to Georgia remote-piloted vehicles (RPVs), automatic turrets for armored vehicles, antiaircraft systems, communication systems, shells and rockets.
” According to Israeli sources, Gal Hirsch gave the Georgian army advice on the establishment of elite units such as Sayeret Matkal and on rearmament, and gave various courses in the fields of combat intelligence and fighting in built-up areas.”
http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/08/israeli-connection-personal-rather-than.html
August 16th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Similarly, Haaretz of Tel Aviv reported:
From Haaretz of Tel Aviv (via Philip Weiss):
Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili denied on Wednesday night that Israel has suspended its military aid to the country. …
“The Israeli weapons have proved very effective,” he said at a press conference at his office. When asked whether the Israeli arms played a role in the military successes he claimed the Georgian army had achieved, he joked: “Are you asking me as a representative of Elbit [Elbit is a weapons company trading on the Nasdaq and Tel Aviv stock exchanges] or of Israel Aerospace Industries?”
To a reporter’s question about Jews who have fled the fighting and come to Israel, he said: “We have two Israeli cabinet ministers, one deals with war [Defense Minister David Kezerashvili], and the other with negotiations [State Minister for Territorial Integration Temur Yakobashvili], and that is the Israeli involvement here: Both war and peace are in the hands of Israeli Jews.”
http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/08/saakashvili-both-war-and-peace-are-in.html
August 16th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
There’s no grand strategy, no conspiracy here, there are just personal relations among former Israelis in high positions in the Georgian cabinet and Israeli weapons peddlers and retired generals. That’s the way the world works — hustlers on the make have friends who have friends (see the career of, say, Richard Perle for a closer to home example).
For Israel, though, these informal ties to the irresponsible government of Georgia, which invaded a Russian protectorate last week, have proven a diplomatic disaster, emboldening its enemies and reducing the chance of Russian cooperation in pressuring Iran. The Israeli Foreign Ministry has been upset about Israeli links to Georgia for at least a year.
The funny thing is that Georgia has turned out to be for Israel what Israel has been for America: the tail that wags the dog.
August 16th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
The Jewish Billionaire Oligarch Badri Patarkatsishvili helped raise Saakashvili to power but then then had a falling out with Saakashvili. As I noted above, Badri was found dead in Britain a few months ago after losing the last election to Saakashvili. Badri’s death was nteresting because a senior Georgian offical had claimed for months that Saakashvili had put out a contract on Badri. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badri_Patarkatsishvili#Involvement_in_politics
Badri used Georgia’s TV station Imedi to attack Saakashvili. It just so happens that Badri’s partner in Imedi was Rupert Murdoch. See http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/weekinreview/18levy.html?ex=1353042000&en=911bc06c980c2120&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
So when you see Fox News citing Imedi’s reports today, remember that you are seeing one Murdoch tool quoting another Murdoch tool.
Kinda like Dick Cheney going on TV and buttressing his claims by citing NY Times reports — reports that Cheney himself had had Scooter Libby insert into the NY TImes via reporter Judith Miller.
August 16th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Contrary to SLC’s sexual fantasies, carpet bombing southern Lebanon would have done absolutely nothing to stop Hizballah, since most of Hizballah’s facilities were underground. not in Lebanese villages. On the contrary, it was Israel who stashed their military assets in northern Israel next to Israeli Arab villages, which is why it was disproportionately Israeli Arab villages that suffered from Hizballah’s attacks. The inaccurate Hizballah rockets were fired in the general direction from which Israeli artillery and tank fire was coming – which Israel had made sure was in and around Arab villages. This allowed Israel to crow that Hizballah was “targeting their fellow Arabs” while simultaneously claiming Hizballah was endangering their fellow Lebanese.
Typical Zionist lies. Anytime a Zionist like SLC opens their mouth, they lie.
Israel made a deliberate decision to invade Lebanon over a minor capture of two of their troops. They had been planning such an invasion for a year or more. They simply used the capture of two of their soldiers as the excuse – they knew that would happen sooner or later, since they had been advised that Hizballah was continuing to seek captives to negotiate for Lebanese prisoners in Israeli prisons. In fact, the only reason Hizballah succeeded in capturing the two soldiers was because the IDF allowed them to move into the “no man’s land” without visual over watch or radio communication – possibly deliberately.
Israel also used the war as an excuse to seriously damage Lebanon’s infrastructure as a means of weakening the country further for the purpose of eventually seizing parts of it, especially the Litani River area for the water benefit to Israel.
It was all quite deliberate.
Except Israel didn’t realize – not having much in the way of counterintelligence inside Hizballah – how well Hizballah had prepared for future wars with Israel.
And so Israel got its ass handed to it on the ground. Anytime you outnumber the enemy by at least four to one and have vastly more military capability and still take casualties in about the same proportions, you have lost badly.
And next time, reportedly, Israel will get its jets shot down, as Hizballah allegedly has anti-aircraft missiles now, as well as longer range missiles that can hit Tel Aviv.
As for Israel in Georgia, it wasn’t entirely just a commercial enterprise. Israel knows full well that there are possibilities for Israel to get oil from that region. It’s military assistance there might have been a problem for the Foreign Ministry in terms of how it turned out, but there was undoubtedly direct government support for the Israeli companies involved, because the Israeli government controls many of those companies with investments.
Almost ALL of the Israeli high tech and military companies have deep links with the Israeli government, which funds many of them. Israel long ago learned that the best way to spy on the world is to be the country that supplies spy and military technology to the rest of the world. That, too, was a deliberate decision by the Israeli government.
August 16th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
I think there is far too much being read into this. Nasrallah is blowing raspberries at the Israelis, reminding them of 2006, which is an incredibly sore point.
Everyone expected the Israelis to crush Hezbollah who had no air support, no anti-aircraft defences, no armor and not much to stop the Israeli armour. The Israelis had years to prepare and complete suprise–a far greater advantage than the Russians had over the Georgians. That they very much didn’t crush Hezbollah is why it was such a disaster and so traumatic for the Israelis, and explains so much of their desire to start a war between the US and Iran–which was promised them when they went along with the Iraq adventure.
It always helps to see these things in the local context.
August 16th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
To misquote Nasrallah was more than careless. It was more than completely irresponsible.
It can only have been done with intent.
Which makes it more than despicable, and shows us who Yglesias is.
August 17th, 2008 at 8:51 am
Re: It seems to say as much in the Lord’s Prayer and I believe there is such reference as well in the Old Testament.
Um, perhaps the Old Testament (the Old Testament says many things, some of them contradictory). But definitely not the Lord’s Prayer. The Lord’s Prayer says “Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.” Using the subjunctive mood, which is true in Latin as well (e.g. “fiat voluntas tua” is subjunctive). The sujunctive implies a situation contrary to fact, which suggests that in the world as we know it, being under the domination of sin, death and the devil, not everything does happen in accordance with the will of God. Indeed, this passage was picked up on by Zoroastrian Dualist intellectuals in the Middle Ages to argue that the New Testament acknowledged a dualistic metaphysics.
August 17th, 2008 at 8:55 am
The odious Saakashvili and his wife have proudly compared themselves to Stalin and Beria, who amongst their many other crimes were not without a streak of anti-Semitism, so it seems dubious that Georgia is currently under the influence of “the Jews”. Just thought I would point that out.
August 17th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
It took Joe Klein (a pundit to the right of Matthew) a while to see that the Jewish neocons are the enemy within, but he finally did and it took some inner fortitude to do it. When are you going to admit, Matthew – that the Palestinian Resistance is not out to “kill Joos” or that governments and notable public figures harshly critical of Israel are NOT “Joo Haters”? Who are you trying to fool? Are you so afraid of being linked with Norman Finkelstein that you’d rather remain complicit in Israel’s crimes?
August 17th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Hector,
My reference to the Old Testament was not intended to link it to the Lord’s Prayer, rather to say that the concept of everything being in God’s hands and His will is also mentioned in it.
August 17th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Hector, I don’t think anybody is saying that Saakashvili is necessarily acting on behalf of the Israelis, just that he is willing to accept Israel help and the Israelis have their own reasons for helping him. Israel will sell to anybody – even Iran in the past – if they think they will benefit. They only see “anti-Semitism” as a problem if they think they’re being opposed.
Trevor: Yes, Matt steers well clear of criticizing Israel about anything. He has done so in the past, and I suspect that’s one reason he’s no longer over at TPM. Josh Marshall is a “crypto-Zionist” and doesn’t like people criticizing Israel, at least if the criticism gets to the heart of the matter – that Israel is an illegal, rogue, terrorist state. That’s too “eliminationist” for him.
Also I suspect Matt is very scared of bringing down people like Dershowitz on himself, as he’d be out of a job pretty quickly if he did, given his low level on the pundit totem pole.
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