Michael Wolff’s lengthy defense of Chuck Schumer calling a flight attendant a “bitch” is a staggering exercise in cluelessness and point-missing. He doesn’t even use the word “bitch,” instead obliquely referring to the use of “a mild epithet concerning the flight attendant who asked him (politely perhaps, but more likely peremptorily) to stop using his cell phone.”
The discussion which ensues is interesting and somewhat plausible, though I ultimately find it unconvincing. But by eliding the term “bitch” he manages to completely avoid the subject of sexism, which I think is at the core of the complaint here. But the term is a pure contentless gender-slur. It’s like you’re saying “I disagree with what you’re doing and also you’re a woman which is a bad thing to be!!!!!!!!”
Even if a woman is doing something legitimately bad, it’s no more appropriate to insult her with that term than it is to break out a racial slur just because a guy you have a legitimate beef with happens to be black. That’s the issue here.
December 18th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
The tv show “hell’s kitchen” has a lot of swearing. They bleep out a lot of the swearing, but not the “biches”. So the show is “bitch”,”bitch”,”bitch” all the time. Annoying when you are watching with your daughters.
Gendered swear words are weird in that “cunt” is more offensive than “dick” and “bitch” is more offensive than “son of a bitch”. This is probably for the same reason that “cracker” didn’t catch on.
December 18th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Matthew just b*tchslapped Michael Wolff. (That can’t be sexist – Wolff is male.)
(Second try)
December 18th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
I don’t know. Does it necessarily mean that a woman “is a bad thing to be”? Or is it using a gender-specific term to define a bad person? These seem different. For instance, I think you would only refer to a guy as a “dick.” But by calling someone a dick, you are saying, “you are a bad guy,” not “guys are bad.”
Certainly, different power structures make these these things slightly different. But I don’t think it’s fair to say that an X-specific expletive in necessarily anti-X. My mom is Italian. She refers to Italians she does not like as dagos. She obviously is not saying, “being Italian is a bad thing to be.” She is saying, “You are a bad Italian.”
The real question is whether someone outside of the described group has standing to use the term in that fashion. So… maybe Schumer can’t call someone a bitch. Can Hilary Clinton, though? Probably. Can she call someone a dick, though?
December 18th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Even if a woman is doing something legitimately bad, it’s no more appropriate to insult her with that term than it is to break out a racial slur just because a guy you have a legitimate beef with happens to be black. That’s the issue here.
Oh, stop being so tediously PC. If it had been a man, he probably would have said “jerk” or “asshole” or “dick” or somesuch.
December 18th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
It would be nice if we could just shed the gender-specificity altogether. It’s frustrating that most words useful as an epithet toward an individual also happen to be epithets toward groups of people.
December 18th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Hmmm… I might go with the “gendered insult” angle proffered above… if it’s applied to a man, it’s probably sexist since it’s implying that being a woman is bad/weak. Not that I really want to stand up and defend the use of calling a woman a bitch when you feel she’s being mean or unfair to you, but I don’t think it’s any worse than calling a man a dick for the same transgressions.
December 18th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
This time, I’ll remember to save my post.
GODDAMN IT, MATT! WOULD YOU AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH YOUR WEBSITE? THIS MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A DICK.
If she hadn’t been in a servile position, she could have said, “Bitch, put away the phone.” What I find offensive about this is that he’s being imperious with a working person who is just doing her job. The flight attendant is primarily concerned with safety and is not there to kiss his ass. Since he muttered it, he at least had an intuition that it was inappropriate. He should have just kept his mouth shut.
December 18th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Personally, I always say “You gender-neutral unpleasant human person, you!”
December 18th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
But there’s equal opportunity for both genders – you don’t say asshole for a woman so it’s exactly the same as bitch only for the other gender. The reason you use sexist additions to the slur and not racist is because people are too afraid of doing it (whether this is a good thing to do is not the point, of course – you could make the claim that one shouldn’t call anybody by names no matter what the situation is, but name calling is ugly in its essence which is exactly its point).
December 18th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Plus, it sucks if your name is ‘dick’.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Humanist pig!
Um, I mean … Humanist life form!
December 18th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Well, on the one hand, the b-word does seem to be used much more these days as an gender-blind insult, so I’m not sure Matthew’s attempt at polishing his bonafides with feminists is quite so apt as he may think. On the other hand, after skimming the piece, on the merits I think I’m entirely on the side of the flight attendant on this one. She probably asked the Senator several times to hang up. Maybe this (allegedly unjustified) regulation should be junked, but until it is, follow the safety instructions of the flight crew, dammit.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Bitch is definitely a sexist term. But we agree that girls are dumb right?
December 18th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
I know this is off the topic, but I don’t even understand why the world needs to know about this — it just seems like another act in the Big Media Circus. I’d prefer to see the media cover issues like health care or climate change.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
This is definitely a more nuanced issue than Matt is acknowledging. I think there is a little indirect gender-slur still haunting “bitch”, but I also think many people using the term aren’t thinking anything like, “you’re a woman which is a bad thing to be.” It would more be something like, “you’re bad behavior is of the type that is unbecoming in a woman”–and even that wouldn’t be a conscious thought in most cases. Anyway, you can fairly then argue that the relevant standards of behavior for men and women are inequitable, and that the implicit grounds for such inequities involve some sort of gender-slur–but we are really far away from anything likely to be present in the speaker’s mind at this point.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Many years ago, I had a discussion with a colleague of Kashmiri origin regarding an application of the term “bitch” to Margaret Thatcher, who was then busy facilitating (or was it instigating?) another George Bush’s military adventure in the Middle East.
My Kashmiri friend was adamant in insisting that the term was quite obviously being used as a reference to a female dog, which to his ears was one of the worst insults conceivable. I had exactly zero success explaining to him the insult was roughly the generic female equivalent of “bastard”, more or less, and that Westerners in general did not derogate with canines.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
It sounds as if Schumer was being the bitch.
I wonder what Gillebrand thought of the encounter.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
What he did was stupid, but so is this paraphrase. Your comparison to racism was equally vapid.
Back to the freshman bull session for you.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Bitch is definitely a sexist term.
Only a big dick would say that.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Bitch is the female equivalent of asshole. I’ve never heard a woman called an asshole.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I disagree completely. I use the term bitch to refer to a woman who if it were a man I would call an asshole or a dick. No matter what words he used, someone would claim he’s sexist because he said it to a woman – says more about them than it does about Schumer.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Matt really has a stark tendency to suck up to his feminist friends and girlfriends at any opportunity, doesn’t he?
December 18th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I thought “bitch” these days means something like serf, servant. He is the master, she is a servant.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
I thought “bitch” these days means something like serf, servant
It can used that way, as in the classic gangsta rap love song “My Bitch Ain’t No Ho,” but that’s not typical usage.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
From what I read, she was the only one who heard him. If that’s right, then she’s the one who spread the story. It might just be that the story was badly written, or badly read by me, so I drew a false conclusion. I wasn’t paying much attention.
(third try)
December 18th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
How many times was Hillary Clinton referred to as a ‘bitch’ by conservatives and liberals alike? Is it sexist to call a woman a bitch unless she’s Hillary Clinton?
December 18th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Just to add to the chorus — bitch isn’t sexist, it’s a gendered insult. It doesn’t attack a woman for being a woman. It attacks a woman for being nasty, obnoxious, what have you. Yes, it is gender-specific, but we’re a gendered species. It’s ridiculous to expect that we put that experience on hold when we insult one another.
That said, Schumer is an asshole. And I agree — the problem here is his arrogant, I’m-above-it-all attitude to someone just doing her job.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Jennifer Palmeri is being a bitch and denying my insightful and entertaining comments.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
[...] responds to Michael Wolff’s ruminations on Chuck Schumer calling a flight attendant a bitch: …by [...]
December 18th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
This word, though not completely analogous, can be compared to the n* word.
Sexism, though no longer written into law, is still rampant in our society, just as racism is. I have heard people I know deny that both still exist, which is bewildering. Anyhow, just as using the n* word is still unacceptable, most of all by a white male, bitch is still incredibly degrading and inappropriate.
And from my experience, the men who use it are often the ones who still view themselves as superior. Maybe this is a coincidence, whatever.
The point is that your urge to use that word to put a woman down is not necessary, and it irks me that people are so attached to it despite what its saying. Let it go and expand your vocabulary already.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Schumer’s epithet is something I could never conceive of saying to a stranger, regardless of my mental state.
Moreover, the restriction on cellular phone use is based on aircraft safety concerns. Not being proactive about turning off your cell phone on a flight shows a lack of respect for the lives of your fellow passengers or at least a level of ignorance about the safety concens.
I think it shows how politicians consider themselves above everyone else. Psychological studies have shown that power does corrupt. That is why we should be very careful about how much power we want the government to have.
December 18th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Harking back to my truck-driving days, I recall many men called “pricks” and some called “cunts.” If you looked closely at the conduct that provoked the insult, you could make some kind of subtle argument that the pricks were being insulted because of “manly” misbehavior — aggressive, assertive tough badness — and that the cunts were being insulted for “girly” misbehavior — whiny, passive-aggressive, touchy badness. But why bother? They were all assholes. Fuck ‘em all.
December 18th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Chris Rock has covered this: if you’re in a serious fight with someone, it’s ok to call them any name in the book (there are special rules for the N word, but he covers them too — it’s all in “Kill The Messenger,” his most recent special). I believe his example is, “if you’ve got one leg and you hit my car for no reason, I’m gonna get out of my car and I’m gonna talk about the leg.”
Schumer was certainly acting like a dick to call the flight attendant a bitch, if all she did was ask him to get off the phone. Whether or not the cell phone ban is justified, she’s just doing her job. Judging from the linked article, she wasn’t being a bitch about it. As someone above said, sounds like Schumer was the one acting like a bitch.
December 18th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
For the record, the story I saw was sourced to an anonymous Republican aide, not Sen. Gillibrand.
I surmise that anonymous Republican aide is, in fact, a douchebag.
December 18th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
But there’s equal opportunity for both genders – you don’t say asshole for a woman so it’s exactly the same as bitch only for the other gender.
Bitch is the female equivalent of asshole. I’ve never heard a woman called an asshole.
I was just thinking about this. There really is no way to avoid calling obnoxious women “bitches”. “Dick” obviously won’t work. The strange thing is that you’d think “asshole” would be gender-neutral, but it’s not. I was arguing with my cousin about this, claiming it was gender-neutral, when he asked me when I last called a woman an “asshole.” I shocked to realize that I never have, given that I’m profusely vulgar as a matter of habit. So, what the fuck the was Schumer supposed to call her?
December 18th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Also, does Matt Yglesias really never call anyone, man or woman, a bitch? I’m surprised at such delicate sensibilities from our host.
December 18th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Bitch is the female equivalent of asshole. I’ve never heard a woman called an asshole.
Then you and I have clearly never met. It’s much too limiting to cut off an entire subset of naughty words just because of the target’s gender. I’ve called my wife a cock a few times (I just have a foul mouth in general).
December 18th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Matt, 99% of the time I agree with you, but come on!
But, we can’t say bitch now?! Now we are just looking for words to rule out. This really is PCness gone crazy!
December 18th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
In British (and especially Scottish) English “c*nt” can be gender-neutral, and not especially derogatory. (Irvine Welsh’s characters, for example, use it almost as a term of endearment. In his “Porno” there’s a rather amusing piece of dialogue where one character quotes “Kant” and the other misunderstands…)
It should also be noted that British English is stratified along class lines, and what I’ve described above is largely a blue-collar phenomenon.
December 18th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
One has to be both pedantic and clueless to argue that “bitch” isn’t a sexist insult.
In actual use, the word “bitch” means something different depending on whether it is used to describe a man or used to describe a woman. When it is used to describe a woman, it means she is acting too much like a man. When it is used to describe a man, it means he is acting too much like a woman. In both cases, it depends on the denigration of women for its meaning and its force.
Asserting that words have specific meanings is not “PC.”
Words do have meanings and histories. They don’t change their meaning depending on what a person “means to say.” In normal conversation, if you use a word intending it to have a meaning very different from the the socially understood meaning, then you may as well be grunting or howling. “Bitch” does mean something specific, and has a particular history of meaning something specific, and it is a sexist insult.
December 18th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
“So, what the fuck the was Schumer supposed to call her?”
How about nothing at all? This is what really kills me about people who get incensed when someone like Schumer is called out on his (sexist but also just plain) rudeness. Do we really want to make a strong stand for some supposed moral right to use offensive insults toward people who are just doing their jobs? I have never called anyone a bitch (or nigger, for that matter)–and to be honest, I don’t feel like that’s been a hardship for me.
Even aside from the whole issue of the politics of certain words, couldn’t we at least expect people to be polite to one another? What do you really gain from calling a flight attendant “bitch”?
December 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
“What do you really gain from calling a flight attendant ‘bitch’?”
The same thing you gain when you hit your thumb with a hammer and you say “Shit.” Nobody is there to pay you $6 for saying it. And it doesn’t make your thumb hurt less.
But that’s not how language works.
December 18th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
[...] Ygesias directs me to this post by Michael Wolff in which he defends Sen. Chuck Schumer’s calling a flight [...]
December 18th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
In actual use, the word “bitch” means something different depending on whether it is used to describe a man or used to describe a woman. When it is used to describe a woman, it means she is acting too much like a man.
What fucking planet are you from? When a woman is called a “bitch” it means she’s being an asshole. You claim your version is the “socially understood meaning,” but no else here takes it to mean that. So really, you’re the one grunting and howling. Plus, how would that even work etymologically? It’s just stupid and, yes, PC.
Do we really want to make a strong stand for some supposed moral right to use offensive insults toward people who are just doing their jobs?
It depends on the job. But there certainly are situations where offensive insults are required.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I imagine Schumer is just stressed out trying to get HCR before Xmas. It’s like when Cheney told Patrick Leahy to “go f*ck yourself”. After 9/11 Cheney was stressed out until he left office.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I spend an enormous amount down south, deep in Red America, and let me tell you they see, Liberals as whinny bitches trying to force PC correct language and thoughts on all of us; for them this superficial PC crap invalidates all the great stuff you say on substantive issues. It’s all about personal freedom for them. ( and in that they have a point)
They, and I, don’t need someone else to control what words we use, you aint got the right. And when you do succeed in changing language the insult words just evolve. In today’s grade schools the worst insult one child can level at another is to call the “special”
December 18th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
No one is talking about passing a law to prohibit the use of the word “bitch”. “Trying to force”? Who is the whiny bitch?
December 18th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
No one is talking about passing a law to prohibit the use of the word “bitch”. “Trying to force”? Who is the whiny bitch?
People have a First Amendment right to bitch about the word bitch.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
In this post, and other ones with similar themes, Matt plays the only male at a meeting of feminists (and Matt actually is proud to be the only male invited) nodding his head in agreement at all the bitching (whoops – sorry Matt) and whining about men.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
I’m always curious why people get so worked up about someone trying to “force” them to be a decent human being. And by all means, they have absolute personal freedom to be as much of a raging jackass or sexist or racist as they choose. But what they’re really asking for is the freedom to be a raging jackass and not be called on it. Sorry, no. That’s not the way the world works.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
I’m always curious why people get so worked up about someone trying to “force” them to be a decent human being. And by all means, they have absolute personal freedom to be as much of a raging jackass or sexist or racist as they choose. But what they’re really asking for is the freedom to be a raging jackass and not be called on it. Sorry, no. That’s not the way the world works.
I totally agree. But the flip side of the coin is that when people get offended about dumb shit like saying the word “bitch,” other people have the right to tell them to fuck off. You have absolute personal freedom to be as self-righteous about stupid shit as you choose, but what some people are really asking for is the right to be self-righteous about stupid shit and not be called on it. Sorry, no. That’s not the way the world works.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Sorry, but anyone who compares use of the word “bitch” to dropping the N-bomb just needs to stop talking and writing. Seriously. It’s not that Schumer’s not a dick for saying what he said — he very clearly is. But a little perspective is in order. If you cannot understand the historical differences, not to mention the difference in intensity between the two, and, yes, the differences that society has established for these two words, then please, please do not operate heavy machinery near me.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
I’d find it just as inappropriate if he called a male flight attendant a “dick” under the same circumstances. It’s fair to expect our legislators not to act like petulant children.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Matt, love your blog, read it every day, but I think you’re confused here. First, bitch has for a long time now been applied to men. But you might say that the whole reason for that has to do with calling them (a certain sort of) woman. Fine. But isn’t it plausible that he just wants to call her an insulting name? Maybe you don’t like insulting names. But the fact that he used bitch instead of, say, asshole, motherfucker, bastard, son-of-a-bitch, shitheel, fuckface, dick, dickhead, douchebag, cocksucker, and so on (and I really could go on) is that those terms are reserved for males. Not because of deep conceptual reasons (perhaps SOB aside), but because they’re just not used that way (I’m not denying there’s a story to be told here). I bet I can come up with a lot more insulting names that are reserved for men than you can for women. It doesn’t make any of them sexist (though that’s not to say that none of them are or can’t be). If a woman were in the same position and called a guy an asshole or a dick, it would be silly to call her sexist for it. I fancy myself to have a very high regard for women in general, but if i had a beef with one, I might call her a bitch. What I would mean, or be doing, by that is really quite analogous to what I would be doing by calling a guy an asshole. But we don’t call women assholes, but rather bitches. That’s not to deny that the term isn’t sexist in some people’s mouths, but it is to deny that you can infer sexism (even probabilistically) from its use. And such careless inferences of this kind just provide fodder for those who see all racial and sexual sensitivities as involving similar sorts of (motivated) mistakes. If there is anything to be lamented here, it’s that either all the names reserved for men are so reserved, and/or that there aren’t a lot more of them (than there are now) reserved for women. Really, the choices are pretty much restricted to bitch, unless you want to get really nasty (and I would also argue that even cunt is not *necessarily* a reflection of sexist attitudes as it is a reflection of a willingness to be really nasty) or have a much ‘thicker’ concept in mind, such as ‘gold-digger’ or ’shrew’.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
OK let me explain with an example PC nonsense.
How dare you use the word “jackass” as an insult. A jackass, a male donkey, is one of God’s noblest of creatures, he will labor all day for 1%-2% of his body weight in road side grass. Civilization was built off of his sweat and you use his name as an insult. you are a true animal hater and you disgust me.
This PC crap is just a form of being a bullies. escalating the rhetoric and forcing the other party to defend themselves from the slander. And I know what to do with a bullies; you don’t back down one inch and you get ready to fight. I do it all the time with conservatives.
Look Chuck Shumer was rude to a flight attendant end of story. Chuck Shumer has a perfect voting record on women’s right issues.
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26976
To slander him with the label bigot really does disgust me. (no facetiousness on this use of the word disgust, because I really do hate bullies)
December 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Bullshit.
Your say so, don’t make it so.
“Bitch” most definitely does not equal the n-word. If such an analog exists, it would be the c-word. Your first hint should have been the fact that you feel the need to educate others on the need for sanction against bitch, then there is no comparable need regarding the n and c words. Get a clue.
I know that some people in the ivory tower think “bitch” has some sort of magical properties associated with it that necessarily conveys sexist subtext, but in the real world that is simply not the case.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Is ‘witch’ out of court as a gendered term of abuse, or does it sound too much like ‘b*tch’?
December 18th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Why are Matt’s comment threads so invariably full of sexist cocksucking assholes? I think that’s the real question here.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:01 am
B is the new N. Noted.
December 19th, 2009 at 8:29 am
How about ‘jezebel’?
December 19th, 2009 at 11:38 am
A correction is in order here—Schumer was not being high-handed to a flight attendant, did not yell at her, did not attack her. After she walked away, he muttered “bitch” under his breath, and was overheard by the person in the next seat. The flight attendant never even noticed it.
This is as harmless as blowing-off-steam gets. That Yglesias is blogging about it is a sad demonstration of how much anonymous Republican staffers still get to control the conversation.
December 19th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I will prove that bitch is not a sexist term:
Matt stop being a whiny bitch.
QED
December 20th, 2009 at 12:18 am
Yes, one wonders.
I don’t know if you’ll see this, Belle, but I’m curious to know if you really think that Matt’s blog is unusual in this regard. I’ve found this to be about the norm across the entire left blogosphere, excepting feminist oriented sites (and those with unusually large female readership). Over the last eight or so years, I’ve been quite surprised to discover that the male left is only slightly less sexist than the right. This hadn’t seemed to be the case among my circle of friends, so that’s why this comes as a surprise.
What really gets me is how utterly and deeply dismissive men—progressive men—often are of feminist and anti-sexist concerns. That and the inevitable accusation of ulterior motives to male feminists like Yglesias.
But I was very glad to read Mark’s comment.
For my part, I do think that there’s a small amount of truth to the argument that for many people “bitch” is the only available epithet to use for an “annoying” woman and is not intended to be sexist. But that elides the entire context of gender-specific insults, how they differ in usage between men and women, and specifically the many sexist connotations of “bitch”. So it’s not a very persuasive argument.
It’s amusing, but sad, to see how people typically find themselves easily outraged against speech that is personally offensive to them, yet find themselves also outraged at authoritarian PCism when the speech in question isn’t personally offensive to them. So it goes.
December 21st, 2009 at 1:42 am
Jesus, I don’t know what Schumer is like in real life, but the fact is he’s a fucking elected senator chosen to serve by millions of people in a very big state, and not a douchebag yuppie setting up a tee time. Maybe something important to hundreds of thousands of people depended on his phone call, and maybe some flight attendant on a power trip was seriously fucking with his ability to do his job on the people’s behalf. Maybe not. But forgive me if I’m not ready to jump all over Schumer’s case for being a horrible person based on his being a bit snappish at one moment.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Women have assholes too, and can even be them, you know. Where the sexism comes in is this – when it’s a man, you’d insult them in a way that has nothing to do with their gender. (”Asshole”, since everyone has an asshole, is not a gender-loaded term.) But when it’s a woman, you seem to only be able to insult them in a way that includes their femininity.
Saying “I use ‘bitch’ for women and ‘asshole’ for men” doesn’t absolve you of the sexism. Indeed, that’s the exact reason you’re sexist.
December 22nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
‘I will prove that bitch is not a sexist term:
Matt stop being a whiny bitch.’
Well, thanks for proving very concisely that it IS a sexist term. Used to imply whininess, weakness, subservience, loss in competition… SOUND FAMILIAR, SEXIST ASSHOLE?? ‘Bitch’ is a SEXIST insult. Trust me, I am a woman (or am I a ‘bitch’ too, since I am here calling YOU, a MAN, totally WRONG?), I hear it FAR too often, and it hurts me so much I get tired.
Seriously. Where do these misogynistic idiots come from??? All around me, I suspect… shiver… IBTP